NDSP Quad Cortex

[mbenigni]

Oh I didn’t say when

Please don't.

 

[mikah912]

To be fair, all such names are plucked out of thin air. (What is the sound of one "Ganymede" clapping?) Always assume that any "original" content that isn't actually shipped is vaporware. No one's going to be able to stand up and say, "Hey, this isn't the 'Singularity Reverb' we were promised!" NDSP can hang that tag on any algorithm they please... if and when the time ever comes.


I don't think I'd agree with this. They've managed to code a few good sounding reverbs. More "in-depth" reverbs are usually a matter of embedding additional modulation and/or feedback behaviors, and there's evidence in the QC library that they can handle that, too.

They just can't seem to hold to a schedule is all.

I'll only say that if they could have....they would have. We're approaching year four and TINA has been magically handling the super duper fast and human-free amp modeling.

So, what's the hold up?

 

[mbenigni]

I'll only say that if they could have....they would have. We're approaching year four and TINA has been magically handling the super duper fast and human-free amp modeling.

So, what's the hold up?

I can't disagree with you. But I don't think it's a question of whether they're technically capable. More a matter of priorities vs. resources. If there comes a time when throwing some more block types at CorOS might boost QC sales - and management feels that boosting QC sales is necessary - then maybe. Until then, they'll probably keep puttering away with their plugins.

I'd love to see some new reverbs, or wahs, or whatever, but I'm not holding my breath either way. If the QC weren't already covering the bases for me, I'd be using something else.

 

[mikah912]

I can't disagree with you. But I don't think it's a question of whether they're technically capable. More a matter of priorities vs. resources. If there comes a time when throwing some more block types at CorOS might boost QC sales - and management feels that boosting QC sales is necessary - then maybe. Until then, they'll probably keep puttering away with their plugins.

I'd love to see some new reverbs, or wahs, or whatever, but I'm not holding my breath either way. If the QC weren't already covering the bases for me, I'd be using something else.

That's the thing: I haven't seen reverbs of that quality in the plugins either, and obviously it would be an attractive proposition for whatever they put it in with a price tag.

 

[deadpool_25]

The QC is great, and I do dig it. But I'm not particularly fond of the company and how they operate

 

[Stone]

I was assuming you'd tried one to make that statement. I'm not saying you should try one--no piece of gear is for everyone--but that's a strange statement without having tried one out. It's like saying you don't like a food when you've never tried it.

Regardless, if the Fractal stuff is working well for you, keep with that. Fractal is amazing.

At this point it comes down to the details on what will be best for a given person. All these things sound great.

no but looking at the parameters available i known it would not be for me
I know some folks dial in a preset and good to go, but thats not for me and I do really enjoy crafting tones

 

[Jarick]

For those wanting to do the 80's dual detune thing, the 229T chorus ain't bad at stock settings. Lower the mix a touch if needed.

 

[deadpool_25]

For those wanting to do the 80's dual detune thing, the 229T chorus ain't bad at stock settings. Lower the mix a touch if needed.

Can also use the pitch detune.

 

[Jarick]

Can also use the pitch detune.

Right but that's only mono correct? Also sounded a little phasey when I tried it. I like the 229T for the width without the warble.

 

[deadpool_25]

Right but that's only mono correct? Also sounded a little phasey when I tried it. I like the 229T for the width without the warble.

I was able to put two of them and setup a stereo (wdw actually) preset.

 

[deadpool_25]

 

[GTR37]

I am actually pretty excited to see how they do with the Dime wah, I think that could be pretty cool for the users if they have the 6 freq settings and the 17 db boost

That would allow a lot of flexibility as it was basically like a dunlop rack was in a pedal

 

[Orvillain]

I am actually pretty excited to see how they do with the Dime wah, I think that could be pretty cool for the users if they have the 6 freq settings and the 17 db boost

That would allow a lot of flexibility as it was basically like a dunlop rack was in a pedal

Wonder how close it will be able to get to my 535q and bb535. These two definitely sound different from one another. The bb535 is more synthetic sounding, and smoother than the 535q. The 535q sounds like an explosion. They're both great!

 

[Warmart]

I think tweakability is the devil, and was my whole problem with the Axe FX II. I couldn't really get a high-gain tone I was super super happy with back in the day. Axe III? Basically since I've had it, none of the tweaks were that essential to me, and it worked just like a real world signal chain.

QC? Quite honestly, just for pure amp tones, I've not really come across any scenario where I wished for any of those deeper tweak parameters. The plugins are also similarly instant gratification.

This isn't true for Helix or Amplitube 5 (non-ToneX models) though. Sometimes I do load up one of their stock amps and think "this needs a high-cut in the input EQ, and it needs the bias dropping" type stuff. Helix gives you the two bias controls, which is good. Amplitube 5 doesn't give you anything really. But generally when I use that, I'm just using my ToneX captures for the amp now.

Fuck me for the delayed reply, but was off work and busy the last few days and hate replying from my phone.

THIS 100000%.

I have a few high gain presets on my FM9 that work really well, but I can't get that last 4 or 5% to perfection. Tried all the tweaks and found that moving the majority from the "default", either does nothing, or makes it worse.

For me it seems a lot of those tweaks just plain don't apply to the high gain tones I'm after. Of course other's mileage may vary, these things are always personal and down to the hearing of the individual.

Have had my QC for a couple days and already have more presets on it - that are probably 98% of perfect, without any tweaks attempted! I'm really happy with some of them, and I already know that when the Fortin Nameless preset is ported in the next update, I'm going to be stoked.

There's been a bit of a learning curve with the QC, but mostly it's been very intuitive. I think the biggest failing (other than how long it's taken them to get things added that marketing has promised ) is a lack of scribble strips! Having to bend over and "slide up" to see what the footswitches are going to do is a bit of a pain, but no biggee. I'm getting used to it, and when I have two full banks of "flavors" of high gain, I'll memorize what's what, any who.

Touchscreen is awesome, no problems usability wise. Biggest "control" issue is changing modes (preset/scene/stomp) via dual press of two footswitches, you really have to be careful there. Good thing is that no missiles get launched towards Israel if you don't hit them in perfect synchronization.

Figured out the cloud stuff, downloads and creating my own presets. Super simple. Transpose block is working well to bring E Standard down to B Standard - seems to work as well (or nearly as?) the FM9 VC.

Was surprised about the lack of a global volume pedal assignment, have to add a "utility - volume" on each preset. Some of them were tricky to reorganize in that I added both that "utility" and a "transpose" to them.

Still lots to learn, but damn, the QC sounds fucking glorious!

 

[Orvillain]

[snip]I think the biggest failing (other than how long it's taken them to get things added that marketing has promised ) is a lack of scribble strips![snip]

Yeah, scribble strips would've been awesome. You do have Gig Mode as you say, and to be honest it is quite good, I really like how it has distinctive looks for stomp, scene, and preset modes, so if you learn how they look then you can quickly know what mode you're in.

The main issue I think the unit has is that it doesn't play perfectly well with friends. So sticking pedals into the effects loops... you have to mess around setting the send and return levels so you get a nice unity gain signal, and so when you bypass the loop block the output volume is the same as with it enabled. It is a bit finnicky in that regard. But it is workable.

 

[Warmart]

Yeah, scribble strips would've been awesome. You do have Gig Mode as you say, and to be honest it is quite good, I really like how it has distinctive looks for stomp, scene, and preset modes, so if you learn how they look then you can quickly know what mode you're in.

The main issue I think the unit has is that it doesn't play perfectly well with friends. So sticking pedals into the effects loops... you have to mess around setting the send and return levels so you get a nice unity gain signal, and so when you bypass the loop block the output volume is the same as with it enabled. It is a bit finnicky in that regard. But it is workable.

Yeah, still getting used to the screens, etc., but getting there.

I definitely won't be using any pedals, haven't had one since my 80's Rat lol.

 

[mbenigni]

I definitely won't be using any pedals, haven't had one since my 80's Rat lol.

And the QC's Rat model is indistinguishable from the real thing. :)

 

[Mongillo19]

It's been 2 months since NDSP Dan put up a Q&A about TINA. No questions have been responded to

 

[mbenigni]

It's been 2 months since NDSP Dan put up a Q&A about TINA. No questions have been responded to

I still cannot fathom why the photo of TINA on their home page accompanies a headline about running existing virtual plugins on an existing digital platform.

 

[Mongillo19]

I still cannot fathom why the photo of TINA on their home page accompanies a headline about running existing virtual plugins on an existing digital platform.

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