Mooer GS1000li profiler

[GuitarJon]

Dunno, of course I watch these things as well, more often than I'd needed to, but for me they're usually raising more questions than they're answering.
This very unit is a good example, for the most part you can see the basic editing functionality which is pretty much bog standard. But I usually want to know about whatever utility things, latency, possible assignment options and what not. For any daily life operations, these are as important as "you can drag an element around" (which is pretty much a given anyway).

Fwiw, I didn't get a user manual until the day before the release or so. I wish I had it before I made my video because I also had some questions.

 

[ian_dissonance]

I’d much rather see a video (most of the time) where someone shows you the features that make something unique or different or menu diving esoteric options than “here’s tone, here’s editor, sounds like everything else from XXXX” because it always does. Do people really question whether these things sound good anymore? Isn’t it all workflow and interface at this point?

 

[Sascha Franck]

Fwiw, I didn't get a user manual until the day before the release or so. I wish I had it before I made my video because I also had some questions.

It's all fine. As said, I wasn't talking about anyone in particular.

 

[saarangnarayan]

Do people really question whether these things sound good anymore?

I guess the point is that they DO sound good. Or at least good enough to where it shouldn’t be a cause for much concern. Sure, it may not be as great and/or accurate as a Fractal or Line 6, but it sure sounds good enough to the point that it’s not even a big question anymore.

 

[GuitarJon]

It's all fine. As said, I wasn't talking about anyone in particular.

I know, just giving some context

 

[Sascha Franck]

Isn’t it all workflow and interface at this point?

Exactly. For me, being mainly a live player, it's even more about that than about the sound. I want to know about all the utilitarian aspects of whatever unit, because these are crucial to make an informed decision wether the unit would work either as a standalone or nested with other things.

 

[BenIfin]

Is it me, or does this unit seem to almost %100 copy / duplicate Kempers Profiling process (?) -also then- it doesn't seem to use any sort of AI based profiling or processes in its Capturing methodology ?

Not saying that's good or bad, but juts seems an "unusual" choice in 2025 ?

 

[timbuck3]

They sent me the pedal because they thought my YouTube channel could be a relevant communication platform for viewers who might be interested in the product.

So u get to keep it

 

[wgowwgo]

I know, just giving some context

@GuitarJon
Does it have vocal harmony effects?

 

[norminal]

So u get to keep it

Hey, that’s an idea! Why don’t you become a guitar gear YouTuber so you can get gear AND not have to pay for it?

 

[timbuck3]

Hey, that’s an idea! Why don’t you become a guitar gear YouTuber so you can get gear AND not have to pay for it?

Or after the influencer can just pass it along to me or some other forum member if he doesnt like it

 

[norminal]

Or after the influencer can just pass it along to me or some other forum member if he doesnt like it

Or they can sell it to pay for the time it took to film and edit their review video.

 

[the-trooper]

Is it me, or does this unit seem to almost %100 copy / duplicate Kempers Profiling process (?)

What do you mean, they all do the same thing, send a bunch of noise to the amp.

also then- it doesn't seem to use any sort of AI based profiling

No way to tell.

 

[Sascha Franck]

it doesn't seem to use any sort of AI based profiling or processes in its Capturing methodology ?

Why would it have to?

 

[gergohajer]

Fwiw, I might've been a tad harsh in my initial comments. You really seem to know what you're talking about and your playing is very decent. So, my apologies!

I still don't like all the gearfluencing, though (not directed at anyone particularly).

No worries buddy.

 

[DLC86]

@Sascha Franck being paid for doing a review doesn't necessarily mean you're not free to say anything bad about the product, I bet most companies don't give a f. about what a reviewer says cuz they know bad advertising doesn't really exist.

I don't know if it works like that even for more expensive items (my channel is still not big enough for those), but personally I have done a few reviews of some cheap wireless transmitters and I measured/tested them thoroughly and said bad things when it was due... and that company was still happy and insisting to send me other stuff. Actually I decided to stop them at some point cuz it was becoming pretty boring and not worth my effort in doing those videos.

I think the choice of being honest is mostly up on the youtuber, maybe some are lazy and don't say bad things just cuz they don't really test products and all they want to do is put out a video and get the job done, not because they're paid shills.
And maybe for some others there's some psychological phenomenon that make them think it's not fair to say bad things about something they received for free (horse's mouth, etc.).
But not all youtubers are like that and I bet everyone of us has a few ones who trusts.

 

[Sascha Franck]

@Sascha Franck being paid for doing a review doesn't necessarily mean you're not free to say anything bad about the product, I bet most companies don't give a f. about what a reviewer says cuz they know bad advertising doesn't really exist.

No, it doesn't explicitely mean that. And yet, that's what's happening. You rarely hear much about whatever negative aspects in most gear reviews. Very often, units aren't really carefully tested, either. As we're already talking about modelers: There's hardly much tests showing how they'd perform in a 4CM scenario. Usually, onboard FX loops aren't even used at all, let alone someone would measure the additional (and general) latency. For anyone not only running things in standalone mode, these are absolutely crucial informations.

 

[JCW308]

Hey, that’s an idea! Why don’t you become a guitar gear YouTuber so you can get gear AND not have to pay for it?

What's the issue? They are providing us with new product info, and we love that. Who cares if they get to keep stuff or if they are paid.

 

[Sedaxel]

What's the issue? They are providing us with new product info, and we love that. Who cares if they get to keep stuff or if they are paid.

No problem at all.

The only thing I found a little misleading is the "as a user" affirmation. Well, again, I'm not being aggressive nor trying to put him down. Just feel a bit suspecting the fact that the unit isn't still on sale and someone says he's reviewing it as a user... Because he's not. He's got the unit because the manufacturer sent it to him.

Anyway, I'm perfectly fine with him and his review.

 

[laxu]

@Sascha Franck being paid for doing a review doesn't necessarily mean you're not free to say anything bad about the product, I bet most companies don't give a f. about what a reviewer says cuz they know bad advertising doesn't really exist.

I don't know if it works like that even for more expensive items (my channel is still not big enough for those), but personally I have done a few reviews of some cheap wireless transmitters and I measured/tested them thoroughly and said bad things when it was due... and that company was still happy and insisting to send me other stuff. Actually I decided to stop them at some point cuz it was becoming pretty boring and not worth my effort in doing those videos.

I think the choice of being honest is mostly up on the youtuber, maybe some are lazy and don't say bad things just cuz they don't really test products and all they want to do is put out a video and get the job done, not because they're paid shills.
And maybe for some others there's some psychological phenomenon that make them think it's not fair to say bad things about something they received for free (horse's mouth, etc.).
But not all youtubers are like that and I bet everyone of us has a few ones who trusts.

I say that if the company sent you e.g a Mooer with the expectation that you make a video out of it, it's not free. You trade your time making that video, editing it together etc for having the pedal. Some channels have straight up "You pay me, I make a video, then return the gear" deals, or "Money + pedal = video" type stuff. That's business. I've seen some YouTubers selling the gear used after the video is out, and that's ok too because they won't want to keep everything that they try out.

The problem is that we don't know what sort of deal different manufacturers have with YouTubers. Some might have more strict rules about what you can and cannot say, others might let you say anything. So pre-release videos pretty much have to be treated as advertisement more than anything. Watch a few videos, see if you are interested, then do your own research by reading the manual or trying it yourself.

We don't get a whole lot of truly in-depth content about any gear unless it's a piece of gear that a YouTuber really likes, e.g Leon Todd and Fractal for example.

The Mooer GS1000Li seems to be 499 € at Thomann, and at that price I'd rather pick the cheaper Hotone A2 Stomp because I feel like its UI is better designed, it has knobs, smaller form factor. Not being able to make captures is an inconvenience rather than a necessity.