Indeed. Patches have up to 48 blocks, routing is more flexible than ever and amp channels (for most Agoura amps) are accessible within a single switch in a single block. I cannot fathom the need for more than one preset per song.
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Indeed. Patches have up to 48 blocks, routing is more flexible than ever and amp channels (for most Agoura amps) are accessible within a single switch in a single block. I cannot fathom the need for more than one preset per song.
Thank you - I hadn’t understood that correctly and hopefully that will help here :)
molul
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In OG Helix I have 3 multi-preset songs because of DSP limit. It was easy to configure them so switching to next preset is unnoticeable (I only need a 1s silence in the song).
Normally I'm perfectly fine using snapshots in the same preset.
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I don’t have an issue but I think that also will depend on expectations if say someone wants an Agoura Princess
Revv red , JCM800 with poly shifts Can they do that in one preset?
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Basically me neither, but I can still see how you might want to dedicate a preset to one sound type, say cleans, and then use another preset for dirt. Kitchen sink presets, while I like them, get tough to keep track of sometimes.
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molul
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I really hope that, despite Agoura amps are more DSP intensive, the Stadium DSP allows for at least a couple of them plus some other DSP intensive effects.
Probably not completely, but that should be easy to work around. You could stand in either the HX Revv Red or the Line 6 Oblivion and greatly reduce the amount of DSP being hit. From what I've seen, there's enough DSP - even at the currently moderate levels of optimization - to run Poly Pitch on the 1/2 lane, and then move those amps to the 3/4 lane below.
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Mods can we get the word dollars to auto-correct to Tim Bucks?
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If it doesn’t fit you make compromises for live use. If you’re using all three amps simultaneously you’re probably just sending a bunch of stereo garbage out to FOH anyways, lol.
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They are not implementing that same use half your DSP to do gapless switching this time DI has said that they are looking into other ways to do it not so taxing in the CPU so it is conceivable that OG Helix will have quicker switching on launch
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Not simultaneously but can you actually have 3 Agoura amps in a single preset we don’t know that
Fractal has channels so they can use 4 amps per preset if you wanted to obviously 1 at a time but the capabilities are there
That's fine, but that's only to have a buffet of certain types of tones on tap in the studio. You could also have your preferred cleans and dirt saved as favorites for quick recall too.
If we're talking about live, time-sensitive use, you can have clean/dirt/lead/whatever live in a single preset with snapshots. Snapshots/scribble strips help make it easier to keep track of, and Showcase will make it even easier for live use.
Always going to be edge use cases, and "needing" 3 Agoura amps specifically live in a song is one of 'em.
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Preset switching time is always the last thing that's done. Not sure if it'll get noticeably better for 1.1 (yes, currently slower than Helix), but it's definitely on our docket to continuously improve after launch.
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Is this latency?
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No. Full throughput latency is the audio delay through the system, from A/D conversion to D/A conversion. USB latency is the audio delay through a computer. We're still optimizing both of those as well.
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So you were talking about switching from one preset to another. There’s some lag there it’s not instantaneous and it’s worse leg than the original helix.?
