Line 6 Helix Stadium

[Mongillo19]

Link please? It's been a while since I've gotten into a good scrap. Dude better be from Australia.

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You'll find it a few comments down

But I'm sure you'd be talking to a brick wall with many of those participating

 

[Mooselake]

I think the thing that is on our doorstep is that electric guitar sounds, which were once constrained to a small handful of amplifiers made with contemporary technology, really aren't any more. Starting with alternate amp designs, tone controls, and effects, there's always been an appetite to expand the sound palette of the instrument. Digital models that fill the amp role in a signal chain and do things that discrete vacuum tube amplifiers don't or can't do is just the next step in the evolution. I think the Hype idea is a cool way to advance that trend, along with some of the Line 6 original amps. I like some of those so much I've got no qualms about trusting the ear of the Line 6 sound designers. If they found a way to make it an effect now that blocks can be interactive, having a separate block placed adjacent to the amp, maybe that would make it less of a sore spot for people who are adverse to using it. Of course then everyone prone to use it would say, gosh, it's just one knob and takes up a whole block, couldn't you integrate it into the amp model so I could stuff one more delay pedal into my preset?

 

[Chocol8]

but why not discuss the pro's and con's with it?

Because we don't have it to know what it does yet?

 

[Digital Igloo]

...

Happy Birthday, amigo!

 

[dronerstone]

Since Stadium has WiFi, how about being able to pick your personal favorite online radio stream and mixing it into your signal for added realism on some of the vintage fuzz and wah models?

That'd be ace.

 

[Orvillain]

Happy Birthday, amigo!

Thanks Broheme!

 

[Digital Igloo]

Why not discuss the pro's and con's with it?

Dunno. You do you, amigo.

Although... it does kinda feel less like "I like sushi but I don't care for this particular roll" and more like "I can't stand sushi and would never eat it in a million years, but let's discuss the pros and cons of Mori Nozomi in Santa Monica."

Or "I hate horror movies and only watch romantic comedies. Let's discuss the pros and cons of Weapons."

Or "I hate modeling and only play tube amps. Let's discuss the pros and cons of the BOSS GTX-100."

Sometimes something might not be made specifically for your sensibilities. And that's okay.

/hugs

You'll find it a few comments down

But I'm sure you'd be talking to a brick wall with many of those participating

Thanks! Challenge accepted.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Dunno. You do you, amigo.

Although... it does kinda feel less like "I like sushi but I don't care for this particular roll" and more like "I can't stand sushi and would never eat it in a million years, but let's discuss the pros and cons of Mori Nozomi in Santa Monica."

Or "I hate horror movies and only watch romantic comedies. Let's discuss the pros and cons of Weapons."

Or "I hate modeling and only play tube amps. Let's discuss the pros and cons of the BOSS GTX-100."

Sometimes something might not be made specifically for your sensibilities. And that's okay.

/hugs

Thanks! Challenge accepted.

Weapons.

Pros: Unexpectedly humorous. Excellent performances. Interesting timeline and sneak-ins of "higher tier" cinema influence
Cons: Marketed as "oh god the most shocking leave you speechless" crap making the pros stand out almost as cons initially. That and I am kind of tired of the oh look it's a powerful witch trope. Despite these things; I applaud it's original vibes while trying to stay in the horror lane. It is definitely a post-Hereditary film and I enjoyed it quite a bit!

 

[sashimi]

Weapons.

Pros: Unexpectedly humorous. Excellent performances. Interesting timeline and sneak-ins of "higher tier" cinema influence
Cons: Marketed as "oh god the most shocking leave you speechless" crap making the pros stand out almost as cons initially. That and I am kind of tired of the oh look it's a powerful witch trope. Despite these things; I applaud it's original vibes while trying to stay in the horror lane. It is definitely a post-Hereditary film and I enjoyed it quite a bit!

Haven’t heard of this but it has now been added to my watch list

 

[EOengineer]

I’m interested in the hype feature though I’m not expecting to use it much.

I’d enjoy a Mods knob that lets you toggle between different popular mods for a specific amp, allowing you to select or maybe even combine them.

Having some wildcard functionality in there where you just turn a knob and see what happens is fun. Hell, have hype spin through a bunch of different treatments common to certain eras of music or genres where that amp is popular.

 

[Fireproof]

Travelling around at the moment ... so not much posting ... but had a thought.

Re: Stadium and the "Hype" control naming.

To *me* the Stadium seems like its been designed and going to be a balls-to-the-wall top tier pro level device ... "almost" no compromises.

So is it just me (?) that thinks using the word "Hype" for this control is a bit gimmicky or consumer-grade ?

I think what it does is brilliant and it will be super popular amongst all levels of users ... however ... maybe something like "Idealized" or "Refined" (?)

I think you're overthinking it.

 

[KingsXJJ]

Putting on my “serious” hat. Not sure this belongs here but I guess maybe it might. This occurred to me this morning.

We’ve had discussions here about Gibson buying Mesa and how that has impacted a legendary brand. How Randall seems to feel about it now. There are other cases too that might be mentioned that kinda played out the same.

But I tip my serious hat to Yamaha for not doing something similar to Line 6. And I think it also speaks very highly of the Line 6 team that a company as fine and large as I believe Yamaha to be allows them to do their thing and bring products like this to market.

Obviously I don’t know what goes on behind the scenes and maybe I’m being naive and it is more complicated. I hope not, because to me, this seems like a success story and a win for us gear freaks too.

TDLR: Kudos to Yamaha and Line 6 for a successful partnership. Go Team.

 

[EOengineer]

 

[Orvillain]

If you really analyse that gif, you'll see, plain as day, Steve Martin is the only one committed to the knob thrust.

 

[KingsXJJ]

If you really analyse that gif, you'll see, plain as day, Steve Martin is the only one committed to the knob thrust.

And Chevy Chase missed the timing.

Martin and Short are a natural team.

 

[mbenigni]

Only one way to settle this. TGF Stadium TourBox it is.

First!

 

[mbenigni]

You say that knowing what a Snickers is and what it is like to eat one.

!chocol8

 

[mbenigni]

You don't seem to fully understand what the hype knob is about. But fortunately, Mr. Igloo just posted it above:



In my book, that hasn't got all too much to do with how a recorded amp signal needs to be adjusted to suit a mix but much more about how it feels in your hands. And as has also been stated, the hype knob possibly does something different for different amps. Again nothing mix-relevant but rather a thing about how the amp feels and reacts.

I have a suspicion that one might want to apply different amounts of Hype depending on the volume they’re playing at, the room they’re in, their playback system, position relative to, etc, etc. E.g. if I’m in my bedroom, an “authentic” plexi might not be practical - I might want a little more squish or whatever to compensate. On stage or otherwise “at volume”, I’d probably prefer that the model be closer to real world experience/ expectations. Something like a Hype knob would add a lot of value in quickly adapting any given amp for different applications.

 

[mbenigni]

I think the Hype knob will be a great quick tool for shaping the sound of any amp model quickly into a direction that might appeal to the user. It might make a strident Marshall smoother, give a dull Normal channel of a Fender a bit more sparkle etc. Just do something that the original amp model does not do by tweaking controls.


For me, totally the opposite. The dumbest thing about the UA Ruby is how only one mode of the amp channels is adjustable with the treble/bass EQ controls. Only because the original amp was like that. But this is digital, why not just offer the option? "Turn these to zero for an authentic behavior on the Normal channel or give yourself some extra tweakability by turning them up." Purists can leave them down, others can make use of them. Instead to me the UA Ruby's Top Boost channel is the only one I actually like on that plugin. On the other plugins there's also often just one mode/channel/variant that I actually like. Same for their cab selection.

Amps have been modded for a long time. People have clipped off bright caps, swapped them for different values, altered tone stacks, added extra gain stages, used different tubes. All these make those amps "less authentic", but many have turned into signature features of brands like say Bogner, Mesa, Friedman etc.

I think the Hype knob will be effectively an adjustable amp mod from Line6. The Focus mode is like a stage tech that will tweak the amp by deciphering the interpretive dance of your finger on the touchscreen.

I've said before that I would gladly throw every brand name amp model found in modelers into the thrash can and use only original models if they sound good.

Give me the Line6 He Gets US model that sounds better than the best Fender amp models.
Give me the Line6 Super Shart model that sounds like the best Marshall "brown sound" ever made.
Give me the Line6 My Anaconda Don't Want None Unless You Got Badonk Hun model that sounds like the biggest, ballsiest, yet tight high gain thing. No matter how it's achieved.

Squirrel Removal Machine (tm)

 

[KingsXJJ]

I have a suspicion that one might want to apply different amounts of Hype depending on the volume they’re playing at, the room they’re in, their playback system, and any number of other variables. E.g. if I’m in my bedroom, an “authentic” plexi might not be practical - I might want a little more squish or whatever to compensate. On stage or otherwise “at volume”, I’d probably prefer that the model be closer to real world experience/ expectations. Something like a Hype knob would add a lot of value in quickly adapting any given amp for different applications.

Hmmm. We might need a 5 band parametric Hype setup for that.

“Kirk to Engineering…”