Line 6 Helix Stadium Talk

[Orvillain]

Can’t argue with genius, but I still think it sounds like ass, when pretty much everyone else does it.

Probably because you're dialing in the effect the same way as when you'd have it after the amp. Spatial effects before distortion need to be dialed in a bit differently. Lower mix values generally, shorter decay or feedback times depending on taste.

If I were to put the Cosmos Echo before an amp, I'd probably only have the mix around 15% but the distortion of the amp will bring out the character of the effect, and I like it because it adds glue and bounce to the performance, as the effect and the dry signal fight to maintain dominance when hitting the front.

Whenever I add effects in the loop, I always feel like I can't get it to be mushy enough.

 

[EOengineer]

Whenever I add effects in the loop, I always feel like I can't get it to be mushy enough.

It would be interesting to figure out if there’s a consistent demarcation line that separates these two camps.

Verb and delay in the loop sounds like 80s hairspray rock to me. I actively run from that stuff, it gives me the ick. Maybe if I’d been born 7-10 years earlier I’d be on team fx loop. Or I’m just lazy.

 

[Gary_W]

The amp I used to use live didn’t have an effects loop worth using so I had a sizeable pedal board in front of the main input….. in these digital days I tend to put reverbs last but I occasionally play, depending what I’m trying to achieve.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Probably because you're dialing in the effect the same way as when you'd have it after the amp. Spatial effects before distortion need to be dialed in a bit differently. Lower mix values generally, shorter decay or feedback times depending on taste.

If I were to put the Cosmos Echo before an amp, I'd probably only have the mix around 15% but the distortion of the amp will bring out the character of the effect, and I like it because it adds glue and bounce to the performance, as the effect and the dry signal fight to maintain dominance when hitting the front.

Whenever I add effects in the loop, I always feel like I can't get it to be mushy enough.

Don’t trouble me with the science.