Either you have a reply or not. Not gonna read 16 pages of a thread to not talk to you, I’m just not gonna talk to you.
I get the beef, no one likes paying for DLC or for it to be the business model in this space. I also get why Kemper priced it as such, and I think the pricing’s competitive within its product line for those who like the Kemper. You don’t like it and think it sounds donkey, so of course the pricing doesn’t make sense to you.
Yeah, this is what I mean. Many of us enthusiasts think the Kemper algos are old and outdated, and the Kemper Player pricing is just a latest highlight of that. Same point, different messaging, different responses… figure out what you actually think, people.
Hmmmm. I don't hate Kemper. If I did, I would have sold my toaster before they dropped a few hundred in resale. The Kemper software is designed to have a screen. If the Player really was meant to be a tiny Stage, it would have one. Honestly if they'd done a better job with the Player design, I might have actually considered it.
It's not $1000 for a mini Stage though. It doesn't capture. Doesn't have a screen. Requires a MIDI controller to get the most out of it. And used Stages are $1100 all day long.
Oh no, they’re trying to make money and give salaries to their German manufacturing employees!
Its IO sucks I agree, but it’s also $600 cheaper. They don’t make money off used prices.
I can buy a Stage on the Kemper site for $1280 right now
Right, but as I've said already, they definitely have to pay attention to used prices, because they're definitely competing with it. Especially since Kemper stuff has been around for a over a decade.
Refurb? Yup, refurb. Why make me google for this stupid point.
They’ve been in business for over a decade, I’m sure they have a handle on how to compete with used prices better than rando forumites.
Long term self interests? Wrt luxury music gear, lol wut? If one’s so concerned with that, buy a used Kemper Stage instead, it’s still fully supported.
And? I can buy it off Kempers website with a 3 year guarantee.
I've seen the Stage cheaper than the LVL 3! Kemper player on FB Marketplace multiple times.
Then buy the Kemper Stage.
I absolutely would if I were between the Stage and the Player as there is very little, if any, reason not to.
And that is why the Player was designed and released at nearly half the price you are focused on…to make it more affordable and only a select few will see a value to by the level 3 version/price.
I think you are Right about this that’s what the are protecting the Stage owners
Considering companies have been doing this for many years idk how it is a false premise?
But yet, as mentioned in this thread, Line 6 sells the stomp for a fraction of the price of the flagship and not once have you had to pay to unlock functionality.
Simple, just because someone has done something is not proof that everyone must always do it that way. The business model was never produce and sell to the lowest bidders ability to pay.
