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We need a few guys to tone capture Fargen amps in the ToneX and compete against each other for who is the best:
IT'S FARGEN WAR ! ! !
We need a few guys to tone capture Fargen amps in the ToneX and compete against each other for who is the best:
The routing does scare me about the ToneX. I have one on order, but I want to just be able to plug my amp through my Torpedo Captor X, turn off the IRs, and capture the amp with the ToneX. I would think this would be super simple, but your diagrams have me nervous. This is really complex.Latest version of Tonex and latest firmware on the Pedal.
I’m using a Komplete Audio 6 as an interface in Tonex. Setup like this:
I have to run the Main Output L (blue above) from the KA6 to the AXE Input1 so I can reduce the level going into the AXE. It was clipping Input 1 on the AXE. Also I only set the Tonex levels so they just light up the first two orange dots in the Tonex meters. I'm adjusting the other levels in the AXE so they are just below clipping and adjusting the levels on the KA6 inputs to about 2:00 on the KA6 level knobs. This give me the most balanced levels across the board.
I'm using the AXE so I can load a Drive Block from the AXE going into the front of the Amp and using a Suhr Reactive Load from the Amp back into the AXE to load an IR Block to go from the AXE to Tonex.
I'm monitoring on headphones from the KA6 using Outputs 3/4 on the KA6 since I'm using main Out1 on the KA6 to go into the AXE.
Yes... I know, honestly this is a mild one.
As long as you have an amp hooked to a load nothing else should be damaged imoThe routing does scare me about the ToneX. I have one on order, but I want to just be able to plug my amp through my Torpedo Captor X, turn off the IRs, and capture the amp with the ToneX. I would think this would be super simple, but your diagrams have me nervous. This is really complex.
The routing does scare me about the ToneX. I have one on order, but I want to just be able to plug my amp through my Torpedo Captor X, turn off the IRs, and capture the amp with the ToneX. I would think this would be super simple, but your diagrams have me nervous. This is really complex.
Last experiment was this chain:
Guitar to In 2 of my Axe I/O; Axe I/O amp out to input of my amp, out of HX Stomp (running power amp sim and IR) into input 1 of the Axe I/O. Axe I/O outs to my studio monitor. I got one good capture out of about 10 this way? Lots of messing with levels in about 15 different spots it seemed.
First 2 captures were amp only. I tapped a line out of my Behringer DI into Axe I/O input 1 for the capture. It was obviously WAYYYYYY TOO LOUD
Either no cab connected and using the send of the amp to Stomp then out to interface OR tapping the line out from my Behringer DI if a cab is connected.How are you coming out of your amp? Microphone on cab or some kind of line level out and if so how?
Either no cab connected and using the send of the amp to Stomp then out to interface OR tapping the line out from my Behringer DI if a cab is connected.
For the following, I am just going based on pics and whatnot as I have never owned the Axe I/O.So @IK Multimedia
I am having odd results capturing my amp. The levels are fine during the Capture and Training processes. When I go to compare; the levels are SUPER low and the capture has an odd sound. Out of like 6 captures I've done this morning; one has worked as it should. Have there been any reports on this behavior from others? I am using the Axe I/O as my reamp box. I am on the latest Tone-X app revision and FW on the pedal itself. I know it's the weekend but just food for thought when Monday rolls around.
Also; on the Axe I/O; the level meter is barely hitting the 3rd bar. The Tone-X app is hitting red and telling me to turn down the gain. Which value am I supposed to rely on as the ideal...what is shown on the Axe I/O level meter or what is showing in the app?
I actually struggle with the need to set the input gain on the guitar input when making captures.Guitar -> Axe I/O Input 1 set to Instrument. Make sure direct send to Amp out is not enabled if that matters.
It says in the capture process right after the input level check that you are meant to compare the level going to your amp vs plugging directly into your amp and make them match. This ensures that the amp input is receiving an expected level when it starts piping test tones to it.I actually struggle with the need to set the input gain on the guitar input when making captures.
ToneX makes this one of the very first steps that you need to do in the capturing process, yet the guitar input is not used during the training process, so unless ToneX is collecting data at this point, which it uses later in the capture process, it seems to me you could turn the input gain down to nothing before pressing the "start" button and it should have no effect on the capture itself.
After capture, if you want to compare model vs amp, obviously you need to set your input gain accordingly, but other than that, am I missing a trick here?
I think I need to do some captures where the only thing I change is the input level (e.g. have it clip, or no level at all), and see if this has any effect on the capture.
This is what I did. It worked fine on the last revision. Not so on this version for whatever reason.For the following, I am just going based on pics and whatnot as I have never owned the Axe I/O.
Are you hooking it up like this:
In the Axe I/O monitor software, your In 2 level should be probably around -3 or -6 dB - strong signal without clipping. Unless the Tonex software expects a much lower signal for some weird reason.
- Guitar -> Axe I/O Input 1 set to Instrument. Make sure direct send to Amp out is not enabled if that matters.
- Amp out -> Badlander front input
- Badlander Cab clone IR XLR -> Axe I/O Mic/Line In 2 set to Line.
This is one of the best things about the Tone-X vs. the other options, imo. Send their test signal to it. My levels are great up through the capture process. Good on the meters and the wave form during the capture window. When I go to compare in the review phase is when things are drastically off.I actually struggle with the need to set the input gain on the guitar input when making captures.
ToneX makes this one of the very first steps that you need to do in the capturing process, yet the guitar input is not used during the training process, so unless ToneX is collecting data at this point, which it uses later in the capture process, it seems to me you could turn the input gain down to nothing before pressing the "start" button and it should have no effect on the capture itself.
After capture, if you want to compare model vs amp, obviously you need to set your input gain accordingly, but other than that, am I missing a trick here?
I think I need to do some captures where the only thing I change is the input level (e.g. have it clip, or no level at all), and see if this has any effect on the capture.
Latest version of Tonex and latest firmware on the Pedal.
I’m using a Komplete Audio 6 as an interface in Tonex. Setup like this:
I have to run the Main Output L (blue above) from the KA6 to the AXE Input1 so I can reduce the level going into the AXE. It was clipping Input 1 on the AXE. Also I only set the Tonex levels so they just light up the first two orange dots in the Tonex meters. I'm adjusting the other levels in the AXE so they are just below clipping and adjusting the levels on the KA6 inputs to about 2:00 on the KA6 level knobs. This give me the most balanced levels across the board.
I'm using the AXE so I can load a Drive Block from the AXE going into the front of the Amp and using a Suhr Reactive Load from the Amp back into the AXE to load an IR Block to go from the AXE to Tonex.
I'm monitoring on headphones from the KA6 using Outputs 3/4 on the KA6 since I'm using main Out1 on the KA6 to go into the AXE.
Yes... I know, honestly this is a mild one.
Does anyone have an FM3/FM9/AxeIII layout for capturing with ToneX? Yes, I’m going to be one of those a******s capturing a modeler, so I can put this on my laptop/iPad for practice, when I’m not carrying the FM9 with me.
The routing does scare me about the ToneX. I have one on order, but I want to just be able to plug my amp through my Torpedo Captor X, turn off the IRs, and capture the amp with the ToneX. I would think this would be super simple, but your diagrams have me nervous. This is really complex.