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AmpliTube 5 has had the ability to filter out gear and presets you don't own since its release (so, for years). And what is ToneNET on TONEX encouraging anybody to buy?
IK Multimedia TONEX
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pipelineaudio
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Ahh that's good to know! I remember it being a big sticking point. When Obi was still with the company those complaints were always derailing him. I have few complaints with IK, as I mention so often the first ones having the balls to make a harmonizer, and for being so supportive of the birth of REAPER, but it seems very odd not to be able to filter by creator or uploader.
I can barely figure how to use Tone Net yet, but in the presets certainly its hard to know which ones you can actually click, and not sure you can hide the ones you can't use.
I'll be installing Amplitube 5 in hopes that soon tonex will integrate with it and a full sized Amplitube Pedalboard will be forthcoming to the hardware world
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This is part of the reason I am posting these. :)But "TONEX doesn't do high gain"
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Check in your IK Product Manager for an update, perhaps?
Jarick
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I noticed that early on, I had to quit everything and reload the product manager to validate the updates, then relaunch. Not a big deal and only happened once.
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I have done 4 captures now. This thing is awesome. I understand the theory of captures vs modelers and which could be more accurate, but in practice, the "experts" really seem to be coming out wrong. This thing is better able to clone the sounds we hear better than the other avenues
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It's about accuracy but also how much can you tweak it. I don't have any amps. So if I find a capture I really like but want more or less gain, BMT, I'm kinda out of luck when compared to component modeling. But yes, when you find a great capture it's hard to beat!
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Why? Sure, it won't be the same as on the original, but often still working quite fine. When I had a Kemper borrowed for a while, I have actually been constantly surprised at how much you could get just out of one single profile. And the Tonex seems to have a rather flexible EQ section (pre/post, full parametric mids, semi parametric B/T), so it should give you plenty of flexibility.
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exactly, and for at least 4 years, I have been able to come nowhere NEAR as close to another specific tone with component modeling as I could just by letting tonex capture do its own thing (but to be fair, the capture systems before tonex, even the linear ones were also able to do the matching better)
Mongillo19
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Trust me, no post EQ is going to come close to the actually BMT Gain interaction of let's say a Mark IV, Uberschall, Recto to name a few. Also, the argument was how accurate component vs captures are. You just said yourself BMT Gain changes won't be the same as the original via the capture process whereas it will be much more faithful in component modeling. So to me, someone with no amps, it is more efficient for me to use component modeling if I am looking for a specific tone or want to tweak things
pipelineaudio
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I keep running paid challenges to try and match tones, people have come somewhat close, but nowhere near as close as even static profiling systems could...I'd be happy to run this again and see what you came up with! I would WAY rather stay in my component modeling world if its possible, I just haven't ever seen it come anywhere near what capturing could do
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I thought @James Freeman more or less won that $20? Don't tell me you've stiffed him on it? Well I'll be!
Mongillo19
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Is there a known issue with the input gain of the software?
Mongillo19
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I don't have the time or interest to be honest lol again I don't have any amps I would want to match so maybe my tone search is a little more straightforward. I try really hard to not obsess over getting a 100% accurate tone. Fractal gets me 90 percent + of the way there anyway.
Im still looking forward to Friday when my tone x pedal arrives tho! Will be throwing it in the loop of my Axe Fx ASAP and then snagging a metro 20 and HX effects when the price is right for a nice transport rig
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What?! What is this heresy!! How can you even play guitar m8!?!
Mongillo19
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I didn't mention I'm very successful
it's just much more advantageous and productive to focus on improving my actual playing and mix/master skills vs trying to get the last specific tone detail down. I totally understand the pros of captures but there are also cons.My form of practice right now is cover songs. So unless I have a capture of said artists amp during recording it's going to sound different, and even then once you add in studio magic, even more so.
Sascha Franck
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Having owned several tube amps myself (a MkIV being among them), I'm absolutely aware of that. And yet, you can get quite far with "after the fact" EQs. Even more so in case you've got two at your disposal (one pre and post each). We could actually start a little contest using a freeware amp plugin, everybody would have to use the same amp settings and then just fool around with EQs, might be some entertaining and possibly educating fun.
In fact, many amp designs are not all that much more but cleverly placed EQs (or parts of them) in various places of the signal chain. For example, if memory serves me right, the treble control of the MkIV is sitting post-gain but pre-drive, allowing for the latter to be vastly shaped by just that control.
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No, it doesn't exactly work like that - but in general, that's how it works, though.
