Hopefully....I'm going to eat some crow (Fender Tonemaster Pro content)

[deadpool_25]

Not sure about this really. The amount of hoops you have to jump through just to separate the left and right of an input and output .... kinda wild tbh. Like if you want to just simply have two mono parallel paths using IN 1 Left > OUT 1 Left and IN 1 Right > OUT 1 Right .... you have to be a dolphin to get it done.

Ok that's not wrong but it's a single example of something that's relatively difficult. But there are plenty of examples of things that they can do that are amazingly cool, some of which aren't even possible on other modelers.

 

[Sascha Franck]

This is "hey maybe I need a TMP" stuff right here:

Just downloaded the IRs and tried to reproduce things with the HX Stomp and it's impossible. The Auto Swell is surprisingly bad (the GT-1000 is doing much better) and the pitch shifter is unbearable compared to the one in the TMP.

 

[mikah912]

Mikah rocking a tmp?

Nice to see they’ve been steadily updating it. Fenders commitment to the digital space is cool and going to position them well moving into the laptop era.

I still have my FM9 and still love it. Just wanted a more capable backup, and it's going well thus far.

 

[Tritium3H]

I may be one of the few here who currently own a Kemper Power Rack, an FM9T, AND a Fender TMP (not to mention way too many actual stompbox pedals and tube amps). Only to mean, I speak from experience of currently owning the actual equipment, here and now.

Suffice to say, the TMP holds its own...easily, at least where it comes to the bread n' butter core amp tones/dynamics as well as effects. In other words, it probably should satisfy 90% of the working guitarists out there.

With that said, there is no question that Fractal and Kemper have a significant advantage in terms of breath of effects available, as well as the fine-grain, sometimes esoteric, deep editing and customization of amp and effects parameters. If you want the depth of programming and tweakability of a Lexicon PCM-80, then get a Fractal.

If, however, you want the familiar ease, almost zero learning curve, and insanely brilliant and intuitive customization possibilities -- AS IF ONE WERE USING an actual physical stompbox pedalboard and tube amp setup -- then one would be well served by the Fender TMP. In fact, in the latter case, there is CURRENTLY NO BETTER solution, than the Fender TMP, IMHO.

 

[Tritium3H]

Oh, and the TMP's Soldano SLO-100 is the chef's kiss.
Not sure why it isn't getting more love by TMP owner's...but I have a feeling that most are interested in the Fender amps.

 

[stilwel]

I gotta say I appreciate the rolling reviews and findings because I feel like thats how a person actually uses gear over time.
I've had those double / triple / quad backflips of opinions on plugins/amps and digital units as well. Heck when I first plugged in my mesa triple recto my face was like "errrr, wat".

When you said there was no "modern drives" I had a look and you're right, pretty surprised there's not at least a TC Preamp or something. I guess I always stick to the 808 or SD1 on the TMP but more options would massively be welcomed. I also agree on the cabs, the stuff they have in there works but I do find chucking your own 3rd party IRs on there really helps.

I just did a video for the TMP Friedman model and sometimes I was using it I was also like, this sounds kinda weird but other times it sounded great. I'll give your settings a go and see how it rolls. Great stuff man!

Was that your video covering Refused? KILLER…

 

[jonsguitargarage]

Oh, and the TMP's Soldano SLO-100 is the chef's kiss.
Not sure why it isn't getting more love by TMP owner's...but I have a feeling that most are interested in the Fender amps.

I posted a video with a demo of the SOLO 100 model, this and the FBE-100 could keep me entertained for a long time...

 

[[Nathan]]

Was that your video covering Refused? KILLER…

Yeah it was, thanks

 

[jonsguitargarage]

Hopefully I'm not overstepping the mark by posting another of my videos but I wanted to share my demo of the FBE-100 because the BE-100 is one of my favourite amps so I wanted to show that the TMP does a great job of modelling this amazing amp. I also included an FBE-100 vs SOLO 100 comparison at the end of the video.

 

[mikah912]

Hopefully I'm not overstepping the mark by posting another of my videos but I wanted to share my demo of the FBE-100 because the BE-100 is one of my favourite amps so I wanted to show that the TMP does a great job of modelling this amazing amp. I also included an FBE-100 vs SOLO 100 comparison at the end of the video.

Love the vids, man. You're not overstepping at all!

I started this thread, but have been slacking on recording amp model demos of my own. So you've filled in nicely!

I'm still really liking it, and I looove that BE100 model especially.

 

[Dominant7]

I may be one of the few here who currently own a Kemper Power Rack, an FM9T, AND a Fender TMP (not to mention way too many actual stompbox pedals and tube amps). Only to mean, I speak from experience of currently owning the actual equipment, here and now.

Suffice to say, the TMP holds its own...easily, at least where it comes to the bread n' butter core amp tones/dynamics as well as effects. In other words, it probably should satisfy 90% of the working guitarists out there.

With that said, there is no question that Fractal and Kemper have a significant advantage in terms of breath of effects available, as well as the fine-grain, sometimes esoteric, deep editing and customization of amp and effects parameters. If you want the depth of programming and tweakability of a Lexicon PCM-80, then get a Fractal.

If, however, you want the familiar ease, almost zero learning curve, and insanely brilliant and intuitive customization possibilities -- AS IF ONE WERE USING an actual physical stompbox pedalboard and tube amp setup -- then one would be well served by the Fender TMP. In fact, in the latter case, there is CURRENTLY NO BETTER solution, than the Fender TMP, IMHO.

I generally agree except that I think the Kemper's time based fx blow away the TMP, especially the reverbs. I"m not talking about 5 second decay atmospheric verbs, but bread and butter rooms/halls etc. There's just no comparison in the tones. I also find the Kemper's delays just sit better in the mix, And yes, the number of choices isn't even close.
But I agree completely on your last paragraph. The skeumorphics are generally very good. I think the computer based software is extremely clunky and primitive versus Rig Manager. But yeah, if you want something that you never need a manual for, the tmp works.
Unfortunately, in my experience, Fender doesn't come close to Kemper in customer service.

 

[Jarick]

Hopefully I'm not overstepping the mark by posting another of my videos but I wanted to share my demo of the FBE-100 because the BE-100 is one of my favourite amps so I wanted to show that the TMP does a great job of modelling this amazing amp. I also included an FBE-100 vs SOLO 100 comparison at the end of the video.

That's a great video, welcome! Coincidentally I've been shooting out the BE-100 and SLO-100 models (although in the Fractal) this week. Great amps!

 

[metropolis_4]

I generally agree except that I think the Kemper's time based fx blow away the TMP, especially the reverbs. I"m not talking about 5 second decay atmospheric verbs, but bread and butter rooms/halls etc. There's just no comparison in the tones…

TMP spring reverbs would like a word about that

 

[mikah912]

TMP spring reverbs would like a word about that

They're fantastic and a great convolution to boot. I would agree on the other bread and butter reverbs tho. I feel like the Hall and Plates are lacking. And even the esoteric space reverbs are not up to Kemper's level.

That being said, the TMP reverbs are almost all better than, say, Quad Cortex (I think their plate reverb is better). Delays are a bit of a mixed bag, but good enough for now.

 

[metropolis_4]

They're fantastic and a great convolution to boot. I would agree on the other bread and butter reverbs tho. I feel like the Hall and Plates are lacking. And even the esoteric space reverbs are not up to Kemper's level.

That being said, the TMP reverbs are almost all better than, say, Quad Cortex (I think their plate reverb is better). Delays are a bit of a mixed bag, but good enough for now.

I agree, I was only talking about spring reverb. The spring reverb in Kemper is terrible

 

[GTR37]

That's a great video, welcome! Coincidentally I've been shooting out the BE-100 and SLO-100 models (although in the Fractal) this week. Great amps!

I have been jamming those models too as well as JVM orange 1
Those 3 models can do 95% of the rock / high gain / lead stuff I need

 

[Dominant7]

TMP spring reverbs would like a word about that

that's fine. Spring reverb isn't something I use much.

 

[Mongillo19]

I agree, I was only talking about spring reverb. The spring reverb in Kemper is terrible

What tonal quality do you look for in a good spring reverb?

 

[metropolis_4]

What tonal quality do you look for in a good spring reverb?

A lot of it is qualities I look for it to not have. Mostly things I associate with bad emulations of the real thing.

I don’t want to hear harsh clangy metallic sounds. (I hear this in FM3)

I don’t want to hear the thing where it sounds like a bunch of delays used to fake it. (I hear this in QC, Kemper and FM3)

I don’t like hearing a short delay used to emulate drip. A bunch of pedals seem to do this.

A good one, to me, does something similar to a good analog delay where the echoes start to blend together to form sort of a smooth underlying pad of sound that the picked notes sit on top of. But it shouldn’t sound like a delay where you can pick out the repeats.

Also, it has to drip. That is key.

I love the big surfy 6g15 tank style, but I also really like the more subtle blackface amp style for times I want it to not be so prominent of a special effect

 

[texhex]

I just picked up a used TMP today for a stupid low price (yeah, it got me). Got it home, upgraded the firmware (super easy BTW) and A/B/C compared it against a 2018 BE100 real amp vs. AXE III vs. TMP and the TMP can definitely hold its own. No problem getting the TMP dialed into a great BE100 tone. TMP is pretty nice now after the latest firmware update, at least on the BE100 i’ve configured. It’s come a long way to date.

Only thing I can’t find in the TMP is how to adjust the Left and Right output levels. Google search mostly just brings up Doug B’s Digital Den and I just can’t click on those…

@stilwel is there a way to independently adjust the Left and Right volume on the Outputs?