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Aren’t songs A and D in your example just…duplicates of the same preset with different names?
Song name is just a "placeholder" not the actual preset.
Aren’t songs A and D in your example just…duplicates of the same preset with different names?
I totally agree that for some situations, real setlists would be nice. I mean, we all need the same sounds for multiple tunes, don't we? Not much sense in duplicating actual presets.
The Fractal Audio Setlist/Song feature allows you to create an organized setlist comprised of named songs, with
each song containing up to six distinct sections (e.g., intro, verse, solo, etc.).
Each Song has a number, a name (up to 10 characters), and consists of six numbered Sections.
Each Section has a number, a name (up to 10 characters), and designates one Preset and one Scene (1-8 or DEFAULT).
A maximum of 128 songs can be created in total.
For Example, imagine a Song named “All I Want”.
Section 1: named “Intro” loads Preset 1, Scene 1
Section 2: named “Verse” loads Preset 1, Scene 2
Section 3: named “B-Section” loads Preset 3, Scene 1
Section 4: named “Chorus” loads Preset 510, “Default Scene”
Section 5: named “Solo” loads Preset 1022, Scene 6
Section 6: is not used in this song. Its “Preset” is “NONE”, which disables the section.
You can already reorder presets. And each preset can already represent a song.
So what you're asking for is a complicated version of what already exists.
I see the benefit though - less presets to modify. And of practical use for some people. This could also be solved with global amps / blocks.
- global INPUT eq, or at least level control (finer-grained that input pad). Matter of fact, I use an external boost/buffer to globally adapt the gain level, and to do basic sound shaping (e.g., pultec eq). The first block in any of my presets is a low/high shelf. I'd love to have this as a global thing.
A mono low/high shelf uses 2.89% DSP, and a stereo one 3.61% DSP.- global INPUT eq, or at least level control (finer-grained that input pad). Matter of fact, I use an external boost/buffer to globally adapt the gain level, and to do basic sound shaping (e.g., pultec eq). The first block in any of my presets is a low/high shelf (EDIT: low-high cut). I'd love to have this as a global thing.
I currently have a preset per song (every song has an unique sequence of effects, so I can't reuse any preset), and use snapshots for either sections (intro, verse, chorus, etc) or effects names (fuzz, delay+overdrive, etc).I disagree. :)
Song A - preset x
Song B - preset y
Song D - preset x
Song E - preset z
I don't see how a list of song titles, each one pointing to a preset can make things more complicated.
This is something other modellers have (fractal has an even more articulate implementation)
Believe me, I've done the reorder, copy, rename and maintain thing for years.
Is doable but far from being practical.
Being forced to create duplicates of the same presets with different names is the antithesis of practicality.
I currently have a preset per song (every song has an unique sequence of effects, so I can't reuse any preset), and use snapshots for either sections (intro, verse, chorus, etc) or effects names (fuzz, delay+overdrive, etc).
I have all presets arranged in a setlist, so I don't see how useful this would be.
global blocks a feature I've asked for since my day one with the helix.
A mono low/high shelf uses 2.89% DSP, and a stereo one 3.61% DSP.
I'd imagine making this "global" would incur a similar DSP hit, potentially breaking user presets, so I'd very much doubt Line 6 would be up for this.
I'd like to have a full screen setlist view in the Helix.
A simple one layout that uses all the helix screen, where the current preset in the setlist is written with a bigger and bold character and stays always on the first row.
something like this.
012 CURRENT SONG
013 next song title
014 next song title
015 next song title.
Mmm I don't fully get this. Why would a global block be more DSP-demanding than a normal one?A mono low/high shelf uses 2.89% DSP, and a stereo one 3.61% DSP.
I'd imagine making this "global" would incur a similar DSP hit, potentially breaking user presets, so I'd very much doubt Line 6 would be up for this.
I'm beating you here. I've asked for it since my day, hm, -461 or so already. Seriously, I started annoying people even way before I bought a Helix.
I was under the impression that when you said "global INPUT eq", you meant global as in the global eq. i.e. applies to all presets, just like the global eq when it is switched on (the Helix necessarily reserves a small amount of DSP for global eq).Mmm I don't fully get this. Why would a global block be more DSP-demanding than a normal one?
HX Mic Preamp > Retro Reel > LA Comp > Split > Ducking Delay on Path 1A > Dynamic Bloom Reverb on Path 1B > Merge > Low Cut. You could try the Double Take after the LA Comp but definitely A/B it to see if it adds or detracts from vocal clarity.On the topic of vocal effects:
I just got a Helix Floor and am looking forward to trying some vocal processing with my band (I “sing“ lead in a power trio, mostly classic rock covers, with some 2000s material and even 80s rap thrown in).
So far, I've set up a preset with the HX mic preamp, LA compressor, and a light 500 ms delay. Also going to try the Double Take as a light thickener?
Any other effects you'd suggest?
Also, will adding the compressor before the PA mixer cause feedback issues?
Thanks in advance.