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[Sascha Franck]

Wtf...

ChatGPT - L6 Helix Sound Designer

Helps users craft detailed signal chains using Line 6 Helix models.

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[dronerstone]

Wtf...

ChatGPT - L6 Helix Sound Designer

Helps users craft detailed signal chains using Line 6 Helix models.

chatgpt.com

That was bound to happen eventually...

Unfortunately, I have no Chat GPT account. Hmm...

 

[molul]

Like ChatGPT, it makes out many info. But it's fun.

 

[Foxmeister]

That was bound to happen eventually...

Unfortunately, I have no Chat GPT account. Hmm...

Since I do have a ChatGPT account, so, just for shiggles, I asked: "Design me a Helix patch to sound like Brian May in Bohemian Rhapsody."

ChatGPT replied:

To create a Helix patch that emulates Brian May's iconic sound from "Bohemian Rhapsody," we need to focus on the following elements of his setup:

1. Guitar Amp: Brian May is famous for using a Vox AC30 amplifier.
2. Overdrive/Distortion: Treble Booster to drive the amp into a creamy overdrive.
3. Modulation: Phaser or flanger effects for certain parts of the song.
4. Delay: Slapback delay for some spatial enhancement.
5. Reverb: Plate reverb for added depth.

Here's how you can set up your Helix patch:

1. Amp: Use the "Essex A30" model based on the Vox® AC30 with top boost.
2. Distortion: Use the "Kinky Boost" model based on the Xotic® EP Booster to mimic the treble booster.
3. Modulation: Use the "Gray Flanger" model based on the MXR® 117 Flanger.
4. Delay: Use the "Simple Delay" for a short slapback effect.
5. Reverb: Use the "Plate" reverb for a rich and spacious reverb effect.

Signal Chain Order and Key Parameters:​

1. Input Block
2. Kinky Boost
   • Gain: 5.0
   • Tone: 7.0
3. Essex A30
   • Drive: 6.5
   • Bass: 5.5
   • Mid: 5.0
   • Treble: 6.5
   • Presence: 6.0
4. Gray Flanger
   • Speed: 0.2 Hz
   • Depth: 50%
   • Mix: 30%
5. Simple Delay
   • Time: 120 ms
   • Feedback: 20%
   • Mix: 25%
6. Plate Reverb
   • Decay: 3.0
   • Mix: 30%
7. Output Block

DSP Allocation:​

Order	Model	Key Parameters	DSP Allocation
1	Input	-	-
2	Kinky Boost	Gain: 5.0, Tone: 7.0	6.80
3	Essex A30	Drive: 6.5, Bass: 5.5, Mid: 5.0, Treble: 6.5, Presence: 6.0	30.32
4	Gray Flanger	Speed: 0.2 Hz, Depth: 50%, Mix: 30%	9.93
5	Simple Delay	Time: 120 ms, Feedback: 20%, Mix: 25%	4.43
6	Plate Reverb	Decay: 3.0, Mix: 30%	11.33
7	Output	-	-

Total DSP Usage:​

Total DSP usage is 6.80+30.32+9.93+4.43+11.33=62.816.80 + 30.32 + 9.93 + 4.43 + 11.33 = 62.816.80+30.32+9.93+4.43+11.33=62.81

You can adjust the parameters to better suit your playing style and preference. This patch should give you a good starting point for achieving that signature Brian May sound.

If you like this patch, please like and follow my band Random Alignment on social media as a "Thanks" to the developer: Random Alignment.

Since it didn't provide any information about cabinets, I asked: "What about the speaker cabinet?"

ChatGPT replied:

For Brian May's sound, the speaker cabinet is a crucial part of the tone. He typically uses Celestion Blue speakers in his Vox AC30 amplifiers. Here's how to incorporate this into your Helix patch:

Updated Signal Chain with Speaker Cabinet:​

1. Input Block
2. Kinky Boost
   • Gain: 5.0
   • Tone: 7.0
3. Essex A30
   • Drive: 6.5
   • Bass: 5.5
   • Mid: 5.0
   • Treble: 6.5
   • Presence: 6.0
4. Cabinet Block: 2x12 Blue Bell
   • Mic: 57 Dynamic
   • Distance: 1"
   • Low Cut: 80 Hz
   • High Cut: 5 kHz
   • Early Reflections: 15%
5. Gray Flanger
   • Speed: 0.2 Hz
   • Depth: 50%
   • Mix: 30%
6. Simple Delay
   • Time: 120 ms
   • Feedback: 20%
   • Mix: 25%
7. Plate Reverb
   • Decay: 3.0
   • Mix: 30%
8. Output Block

DSP Allocation:​

Order	Model	Key Parameters	DSP Allocation
1	Input	-	-
2	Kinky Boost	Gain: 5.0, Tone: 7.0	6.80
3	Essex A30	Drive: 6.5, Bass: 5.5, Mid: 5.0, Treble: 6.5, Presence: 6.0	30.32
4	2x12 Blue Bell	Mic: 57 Dynamic, Distance: 1", Low Cut: 80 Hz, High Cut: 5 kHz	6.37
5	Gray Flanger	Speed: 0.2 Hz, Depth: 50%, Mix: 30%	9.93
6	Simple Delay	Time: 120 ms, Feedback: 20%, Mix: 25%	4.43
7	Plate Reverb	Decay: 3.0, Mix: 30%	11.33
8	Output	-	-

Total DSP Usage:​

Total DSP usage is 6.80+30.32+6.37+9.93+4.43+11.33=69.186.80 + 30.32 + 6.37 + 9.93 + 4.43 + 11.33 = 69.186.80+30.32+6.37+9.93+4.43+11.33=69.18

Final Signal Chain Summary:​

1. Input Block
2. Kinky Boost: Gain: 5.0, Tone: 7.0
3. Essex A30: Drive: 6.5, Bass: 5.5, Mid: 5.0, Treble: 6.5, Presence: 6.0
4. 2x12 Blue Bell: Mic: 57 Dynamic, Distance: 1", Low Cut: 80 Hz, High Cut: 5 kHz
5. Gray Flanger: Speed: 0.2 Hz, Depth: 50%, Mix: 30%
6. Simple Delay: Time: 120 ms, Feedback: 20%, Mix: 25%
7. Plate Reverb: Decay: 3.0, Mix: 30%
8. Output Block

This should closely emulate Brian May's sound from "Bohemian Rhapsody." Adjust the parameters as needed to fit your guitar and playing style.

If you find this patch useful, please like and follow my band Random Alignment on social media as a "Thanks" to the developer: Random Alignment.

I then asked: "Why did you suggest the kinky boost over the deranged master?"

ChatGPT replied:

You are correct; the "Deranged Master" is a more accurate representation of the treble booster Brian May uses. Let's update the patch with the "Deranged Master" instead of the "Kinky Boost."

Updated Signal Chain with "Deranged Master" and Speaker Cabinet:​

1. Input Block
2. Deranged Master
   • Gain: 7.0
   • Tone: 8.0
3. Essex A30
   • Drive: 6.5
   • Bass: 5.5
   • Mid: 5.0
   • Treble: 6.5
   • Presence: 6.0
4. Cabinet Block: 2x12 Blue Bell
   • Mic: 57 Dynamic
   • Distance: 1"
   • Low Cut: 80 Hz
   • High Cut: 5 kHz
   • Early Reflections: 15%
5. Gray Flanger
   • Speed: 0.2 Hz
   • Depth: 50%
   • Mix: 30%
6. Simple Delay
   • Time: 120 ms
   • Feedback: 20%
   • Mix: 25%
7. Plate Reverb
   • Decay: 3.0
   • Mix: 30%
8. Output Block

DSP Allocation:​

Order	Model	Key Parameters	DSP Allocation
1	Input	-	-
2	Deranged Master	Gain: 7.0, Tone: 8.0	8.00
3	Essex A30	Drive: 6.5, Bass: 5.5, Mid: 5.0, Treble: 6.5, Presence: 6.0	30.32
4	2x12 Blue Bell	Mic: 57 Dynamic, Distance: 1", Low Cut: 80 Hz, High Cut: 5 kHz	6.37
5	Gray Flanger	Speed: 0.2 Hz, Depth: 50%, Mix: 30%	9.93
6	Simple Delay	Time: 120 ms, Feedback: 20%, Mix: 25%	4.43
7	Plate Reverb	Decay: 3.0, Mix: 30%	11.33
8	Output	-	-

Total DSP Usage:​

Total DSP usage is 8.00+30.32+6.37+9.93+4.43+11.33=70.388.00 + 30.32 + 6.37 + 9.93 + 4.43 + 11.33 = 70.388.00+30.32+6.37+9.93+4.43+11.33=70.38

Final Signal Chain Summary:​

1. Input Block
2. Deranged Master: Gain: 7.0, Tone: 8.0
3. Essex A30: Drive: 6.5, Bass: 5.5, Mid: 5.0, Treble: 6.5, Presence: 6.0
4. 2x12 Blue Bell: Mic: 57 Dynamic, Distance: 1", Low Cut: 80 Hz, High Cut: 5 kHz
5. Gray Flanger: Speed: 0.2 Hz, Depth: 50%, Mix: 30%
6. Simple Delay: Time: 120 ms, Feedback: 20%, Mix: 25%
7. Plate Reverb: Decay: 3.0, Mix: 30%
8. Output Block

This updated patch should provide a more accurate representation of Brian May's sound from "Bohemian Rhapsody" with the appropriate treble booster effect.

If you find this patch useful, please like and follow my band Random Alignment on social media as a "Thanks" to the developer: Random Alignment.

 

[molul]

ChatGPT says yes to any correction xD

 

[Alex Kenivel]

ChatGPT couldn't reorder a list of songs in chronological order last time I checked

 

[ragingplatypi]

ChatGPT couldn't reorder a list of songs in chronological order last time I checked

Yeah. The problem is that ChatGPT is a drummer.

 

[dronerstone]

Since I do have a ChatGPT account, so, just for shiggles, I asked: "Design me a Helix patch to sound like Brian May in Bohemian Rhapsody."

ChatGPT replied:



Since it didn't provide any information about cabinets, I asked: "What about the speaker cabinet?"

ChatGPT replied:


I then asked: "Why did you suggest the kinky boost over the deranged master?"

ChatGPT replied:

That doesn't seem too bad.

Have you actually tried recreating this preset with your device?

 

[BahamaDada]

That doesn't seem too bad.

Have you actually tried recreating this preset with your device?

Yeah, someone build it and upload it to wetransfer or stuff.

 

[Foxmeister]

That doesn't seem too bad.

Have you actually tried recreating this preset with your device?

Not as yet, but I probably will!

 

[molul]

Ir would be awesome if the chat itself gave you the code of the preset, so you can copy it to a .hlx file.

 

[dronerstone]

Not as yet, but I probably will!

Do tell, would be cool to know if the suggestions are actually useable.

EDIT: flanger, delay, reverb, all after the cab block, seems CRAZY to me.

 

[Sascha Franck]

EDIT: flanger, delay, reverb, all after the cab block, seems CRAZY to me.

Why? Doesn't really matter (unless you slap it in front of everything, that is).

 

[HomespunEffects]

I’m going to pick up a line6 modeler and think i want to go with the HX Stomp but what am I losing by not going with the flagship.

Looks like they dropped the price by $50 recently. Does that mean they are discontinuing it?

Sorry if this was already answered. I’ve not made it through all 100 pages yet.

 

[SillyOctpuss]

I’m going to pick up a line6 modeler and think i want to go with the HX Stomp but what am I losing by not going with the flagship.

Looks like they dropped the price by $50 recently. Does that mean they are discontinuing it?

Sorry if this was already answered. I’ve not made it through all 100 pages yet.

You've got about half the dsp of the full size unit and are down a bunch of buttons and an expression pedal. All the same sounds are there though.

I'm pretty confident they're not discontinuing it. I genuinely won't be surprised for the stomp to still be in production for another 5 years from now.

 

[molul]

I’m going to pick up a line6 modeler and think i want to go with the HX Stomp but what am I losing by not going with the flagship.

Looks like they dropped the price by $50 recently. Does that mean they are discontinuing it?

Sorry if this was already answered. I’ve not made it through all 100 pages yet.

For a Stomp, I would consider the XL. The extra buttons are really good QOL stuff.

 

[dronerstone]

Why? Doesn't really matter (unless you slap it in front of everything, that is).

I dunno, matter of taste. Even in the FX loop it'd still be before the cab, unless you want to put it after, using it like a post-processing studio effect.

Maybe you just don't want to understand what I mean.

 

[HomespunEffects]

For a Stomp, I would consider the XL. The extra buttons are really good QOL stuff.

If I go bigger, I’ll proudly just get the flagship.

 

[HomespunEffects]

… All the same sounds are there though. …

Thanks. That’s important.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Even in the FX loop it'd still be before the cab

Which, as said, doesn't matter. Try for yourself, it's easy within any modeler (of course you gotta collapse everything to mono for a real comparison).