Fractal Talk

[norminal]

What a great idea.......https://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/amp-block-walkthrough-diagrams.211384/

It really is. I believe there’s a “wish” to add “tooltips” to the editor, but I can’t seem to locate the thread. That would be a nice QOL feature.

Edit: Found it:

Wish - Axe-Edit Built-in Doc

Hovering over any knob/switch with a mouse provides information on what that knob/switch does. Similar to a built-in doc/assistance tool. This would be immensely helpful, especially for advanced parameter tweaking. I wasn’t sure if this was brought up earlier.

forum.fractalaudio.com

 

[GTR37]

New update @saarangnarayan he has reworked the BE/HBE

 

[holoholo]

Played a few gigs with per preset switches and my custom layouts. Slap me and call me Susan. The switching on this is next level. I don’t think I can go back.

 

[iaresee]

Axe-Fx III Firmware 28.00 Release

https://www.fractalaudio.com/downloads/firmware-presets/axe-fx-3/28p0/axefxiii_dsp_rel_28p00.zip NOTE: An updated Axe-Edit will be forthcoming to support the Brit 800 Studio 20. Until then you should use the front panel to edit this model. Axe-Fx III Firmware Release Notes 28.00 New Vibe...

forum.fractalaudio.com

 

[laxu]

It really is. I believe there’s a “wish” to add “tooltips” to the editor, but I can’t seem to locate the thread. That would be a nice QOL feature.

Edit: Found it:

Wish - Axe-Edit Built-in Doc

Hovering over any knob/switch with a mouse provides information on what that knob/switch does. Similar to a built-in doc/assistance tool. This would be immensely helpful, especially for advanced parameter tweaking. I wasn’t sure if this was brought up earlier.

forum.fractalaudio.com

It really would be. The Hotone Ampero 2 computer editor has this as a sidebar. It's useful for figuring out what some settings mean, what each cab sim actually is, what are the different mic options and so on.

It would not have to be even fancy, just a sidebar or window you can open that shows the currently selected block's manual page.

 

[Stone]

Firmware Sundays?

 

[Rock Chalk]

Firmware Sundays?

Works for me........

 

[Mongillo19]

Interesting to see this is pushing the III or atleast Cliff is coming up with ideas that he thinks the III might not be able to run

 

[GTR37]

Interesting to see this is pushing the III or atleast Cliff is coming up with ideas that he thinks the III might not be able to run

View attachment 39078

I think the fact that they still have sufficient overhead might bode well for the FMseries ..

What's I will say is what a simply crazy amount of development in the last 6 weeks , just to recap things blocks that had updated ,completely redone and or new types added

- the amp block
- the compressor block
- drive block
- the phaser block
- the tremolo block
- the cab block
-the multiap flex delay blocks and delay blocks
- the reverb block

in fact it probably easier to name the blocks that he did not touch
He never sleeps

 

[MirrorProfiles]

Updated default Negative Feedback value for Friedman BE/HBE models. On the actual amp the negative feedback comes off the speaker jack (for some weird reason). Previously the amp models assumed an 8-ohm cabinet which would make the feedback effectively off the 8-ohm tap. However, the matching cabinet is 16 ohms and using a 16-ohm cabinet results in more negative feedback and a “tighter” tone so we’re now using that as a default value as people seem to prefer that. The models were also “remastered” as a result.

If you like your friedmans smoothed out and darker then this tweak will be to your taste. If you like it more raw and like the majority of post 2016 BE100’s, you’ll want to adjust this back to the NFB setting that corresponds to 4 Ω.

It was a well documented change to the 4 Ω tap in 2016 based on older models being too dark/smooth, for some reason Cliffs reference amp is different though. It’s worth trying for yourself, I way prefer 4 Ω + 100k on marshall style amps like they did in the 70’s onwards. BE 100 DLX has a 3 way response switch so if you want to emulate that you can go between the values

 

[GTR37]

If you like your friedmans smoothed out and darker then this tweak will be to your taste. If you like it more raw and like the majority of post 2016 BE100’s, you’ll want to adjust this back to the NFB setting that corresponds to 4 Ω.

It was a well documented change to the 4 Ω tap in 2016 based on older models being too dark/smooth, for some reason Cliffs reference amp is different though. It’s worth trying for yourself, I way prefer 4 Ω + 100k on marshall style amps like they did in the 70’s onwards. BE 100 DLX has a 3 way response switch so if you want to emulate that you can go between the values

so to emulate a current BEDLX what would you set it too . the NFB. higher than default like more in the 1"0clock - 2 o'clock range?

 

[MirrorProfiles]

so to emulate a current BEDLX what would you set it too . the NFB. higher than default like more in the 1"0clock - 2 o'clock range?

I’m assuming the new default setting will be the highest option (most NFB), the old setting will be the lowest option (least), and 8 Ω will require Cliff or Freeman to confirm. On the DLX it comes off the 4 Ω tap and then has different resistor values on a switch to change NFB.

If this stuff behaves as I think it does, you could potentially find the different NFB values to copy from the 100W Marshall amp models. Marshall used lots of combinations depending on the year (older Marshall’s had more NFB, gradually it got less as people wanted more aggressive amps).

 

[yek]

- -the multiap flex

To rock and ROLL

 

[MirrorProfiles]

so to emulate a current BEDLX what would you set it too . the NFB. higher than default like more in the 1"0clock - 2 o'clock range?

crossposting from the Fractal forum but:

New BE100 value=9.15 16 Ω
BE2010=7.4 (8 or 16 Ω? different resistor value?)
Smallbox=5.85 (8 Ω?)
1959SLP=5.3 (8 Ω? the official schematic shows it off the 8 Ω tap with a 47k resistor)
Plexi 100W=5.3 (similar arrangement to the above?)
Dirty Shirley=4.3 (guessing 8 Ω and that the values account for the difference in output vs 100W amps?)
Atomica=3.2 (different resistor value to the others?)
AFS=1.94 (4 Ω and 100k with different tolerance to below?)
2203=1.88 (4 Ω tap 100k)
Brit Silver=1.88 (4 Ω and 100k, the same as above)
Plexi 100W 1970=1.54 (4 Ω and component drift? 1970-71 was a transition from 8 Ω and 47k to 4 Ω and 100k)
Brit 2204=1.27 (4 Ω and 100k but 50W with the same values means less NFB than 100W)

New BE100 default settings have an absolute fuck ton of NFB, because Cliff has some kind of anomaly that doesn't have the correct circuit changes for a post 2016 BE100. Its cool as an anomaly but to hear something more like a typical BE100 or DLX set to least NFB it'll need a lower setting.

Per Cliffs advice on the fractal forum - to go from 16 Ω to 4 Ω , divide by 2. To go from 16 Ω to 8 Ω, divide by 1.414 (square root of 2)

 

[TSJMajesty]

I tend to be dismissive of those who
I know are locked up tight in a very narrow Genre Box,

You rang?

(Actually...., I was just watching some old Stevie Ray Vaughn last night, and I didn't need to "listen to" Rio to hear what you were referring to, b/c that song (along with most Duran Duran) is burned into my BIOS. )

 

[saarangnarayan]

New update @saarangnarayan he has reworked the BE/HBE

Thanks for the heads up!

Checked out the new FW and it’s not the changes I was hoping to see. But that’s fine because what I want done is more in line with a FAS model than an “accurate” Friedman BE100. I did a super quick A/B with the Ares HBE C45 and the latest HBE C45 at the same settings and the results are VERY different. Almost like two different amps at this point:



First one is the Ares HBE and the second one is the latest version.

EDIT: fixed the link.

 

[Stone]

Ohh I almost forgot

 

[GTR37]

Thanks for the heads up!

Checked out the new FW and it’s not the changes I was hoping to see. But that’s fine because what I want done is more in line with a FAS model than an “accurate” Friedman BE100. I did a super quick A/B with the Ares HBE C45 and the latest HBE C45 at the same settings and the results are VERY different. Almost like two different amps at this point:

https://on.soundcloud.com/4TD7i6ZBMacsTQvU7

First one is the Ares HBE and the second one is the latest version.

When I think HBE the sound I want is like this or close
I know he is using a OH v30 Bogner IR and he does use a Suhr reactive load on all his clips but this is kind of how I hear the HBE

 

[saarangnarayan]

When I think HBE the sound I want is like this or close
I know he is using a OH v30 Bogner IR and he does use a Suhr reactive load on all his clips but this is kind of how I hear the HBE

There’s an openness in this clip that I associate more with the older HBE C45 model. The newer models sound darker and denser in the mids. Especially with a TS up front. The soundcloud clip I posted is using a V30 and Greenback mixed together, both in the same Mesa 4x12 with a 57 and 421 on both speakers. That part of my signal chain is not dark for sure, especially considering the fact that I have to dial down the presence on most amps. The CCV 2B is my current favourite to get these tones tho. With a high-ish MV and low input trim, it sounds a lot like the open and raw tone in the clip you posted!

 

[MirrorProfiles]

When I think HBE the sound I want is like this or close
I know he is using a OH v30 Bogner IR and he does use a Suhr reactive load on all his clips but this is kind of how I hear the HBE

Lower the MV, C45 engaged, low NFB, presence at at least 8. Standard HBE stuff. I’d avoid sat as HBE and sat gets to smooshy