Fractal Audio Systems VP4 - Virtual Pedalboard

[TubeStack]

Again, the fact that I don't give a fuck about potentially being wrong doesn't mean nobody is ever going to miss stuff and just not say anything but also not pay. The suggestion to add a little set of secondary serigraphies to avoid confusion doesn't seem so outlandish to me but yeah keep trying to dunk on me if it makes you feel superior, you're welcome.

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[Orvillain]

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I did the same!

 

[TubeStack]

Oh, so @Orvillain gets a laugh quoting me, but my original post gets nothing, @Mongillo19?

 

[Orvillain]

 

[TubeStack]

 

[Mongillo19]

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Oh, so @Orvillain gets a laugh quoting me, but my original post gets nothing, @Mongillo19?

@Orvillain has a certain......Je ne sais quoi

 

[TubeStack]

@Orvillain has a certain......Je ne sais quoi

 

[Frankencat]

I get wanting to use a multi effect with an amp in 4CM but, to me the Fractal “sound” is about fidelity and pristine time based effects. This is great for a direct rig but don’t you lose some of the benefit going back through a guitar amp and cab setup in 4CM?

 

[DrewJD82]

I get wanting to use a multi effect with an amp in 4CM but, to me the Fractal “sound” is about fidelity and pristine time based effects. This is great for a direct rig but don’t you lose some of the benefit going back through a guitar amp and cab setup in 4CM?

Nah, ya just get badass effects coming out of a cab. Unless the amp has a shitty effects loop, anyway. At most you’re just adding some coloring from the speakers, but there’s ample room for the quality to shine through.

 

[Frankencat]

I did play a Strymon Mobius/Timeline setup for a while through a couple of different amps (Bogner) so I can dig that. It’s just that my ears are tuned to the FM3 effects coming through "FRFR" nowadays.

 

[Whizzinby]

Was finally able to fire it back up for a quick bit this evening.

Haven’t bothered connecting to Edit yet, which is a good sign.

The default FS behavior in Effect mode, where the long hold opens that particular block channel list, already mapped to the four footswitches, is perfect. I started building out the channels for the couple of presets I have, and being able to swap the channels out quickly on the fly is great, and decidedly better than the FC increment/decrement option I use on the FC12. (Which is cool in its own right, but this is moar betterer foot controls)

This kind of unlocks its potential, once you have a couple presets setup in various block configs and start building out channel variations. Surfing between all the reverb, delay, pad types, mixing and matching, is fun and easy to get lost vibing in.

I’m chunking a Golden Ratio, OCD and Octa PSI into the front and then letting the VP4 handle everything else in a stereo loop. It’s a beast reverb/delay/pad pedal. I’m just using two preset variants atm, a Reverb, MegaTap, MultiDelay, Plex and a Pitch, Delay, Reverb, Plex in another.

Just need to setup a couple expression pedals to control mix and feedback and I’ll be at a proper boil.

 

[MadMaxG79]

I'm far from a hater of Fractal stuff but I'm not super impressed by this product, it has plenty of competition that is better featured like the HX Effects or the stomp XL both having more switches and the effects can control the loop of an amp. The unit also comes with super high quality effects but less variety than the Line 6 options, I'm not sure the premium components story is going to do a lot of heavy lifting for Fractal but who knows, I'm not an expert in this market. The positive side for us axe fx owners is cliff will have to focus on closing the effects gap with line 6 hopefully. Anyways feel free to disagree, I have no horse in this race since this thing is clearly not for me.

I agree. I feel like all the praise this gets around here are from people who already own fractal gear. In which case this product isn’t really expanding the customer base, just upselling to existing customers who need an excuse to buy more fractal gear.
Had it been able to also run amp modelling, this would be a totally different product. As is, I don’t really see the appeal over something like the HX Stomp / Stomp XL…

So this just replaced everything currently on my board ....aside from wah..... awesome.

I know I haven’t read all 36 pages of this thread but isn’t this only able to run 4 effects at any one time? Either you have a very small pedalboard (and around these parts, that’s just weird…) or you never run more than four effects simultaneously.

Again, I don’t get it. What is it about this particular product that has everyone so excited?

 

[laxu]

I agree. I feel like all the praise this gets around here are from people who already own fractal gear. In which case this product isn’t really expanding the customer base, just upselling to existing customers who need an excuse to buy more fractal gear.
Had it been able to also run amp modelling, this would be a totally different product. As is, I don’t really see the appeal over something like the HX Stomp / Stomp XL…

I know I haven’t read all 36 pages of this thread but isn’t this only able to run 4 effects at any one time? Either you have a very small pedalboard (and around these parts, that’s just weird…) or you never run more than four effects simultaneously.

4 effects with 4 channels each + noise gate + EQ.

Each channel can be either different settings of the same effect, or a different effect of the same category.
Channel A is spring reverb, channel B is plate reverb, channel C is the same plate reverb with higher mix etc.

Again, I don’t get it. What is it about this particular product that has everyone so excited?

Fractal effects quality in something cheaper and smaller than the FM3. Fractal does not get enough praise for their effects when most discussion is centered on their amp modeling. HX Stomp or HX Effects are IMO not in the same category as the top tier of pedal effects, whereas Fractal is, even surpassing some of them.

 

[Orvillain]

 

[likitlikeyoulikeit]

I agree. I feel like all the praise this gets around here are from people who already own fractal gear. In which case this product isn’t really expanding the customer base, just upselling to existing customers who need an excuse to buy more fractal gear.
Had it been able to also run amp modelling, this would be a totally different product. As is, I don’t really see the appeal over something like the HX Stomp / Stomp XL…

I know I haven’t read all 36 pages of this thread but isn’t this only able to run 4 effects at any one time? Either you have a very small pedalboard (and around these parts, that’s just weird…) or you never run more than four effects simultaneously.

Again, I don’t get it. What is it about this particular product that has everyone so excited?

Cool ...but I do. And that, for me, is all that matters. Sorry for you. Guess you should get something else and move along.

 

[MadMaxG79]

Cool ...but I do. And that, for me, is all that matters. Sorry for you. Guess you should get something else and move along.

You do you - no need to get testy. I am just asking a question. I am genuinely curious as to what the hype is about. And as far as I can understand, it's about having access to 4 simultaneous Fractal effects in one box and either running it stand alone or integrated into a pedalboard - and with all the flexibility that the Fractal platform provides through those 4 switches.

I'm not trying to bring anybody down from their excitement over this new product - been around long enough to know that that's not how it works. I was just wondering why all my "peers" were slobbering all over this new release while I was scratching my head.

 

[likitlikeyoulikeit]

Not testy, giving an answer ...I plan on using my own drives...and amp (4cm)

I do not own any mod effects....and am replacing my HR mx5 with this.

Just because something isn't for you, doesn't mean it isn't for anyone else.

If it isn't for you...cool, find something else.

Just tired of seeing people who wouldn't use a product anyway, shit on it just because they can't see a use. Also, last I checked....I said MY pedalboard.....so, yep.

It's cool. You do you...too.

Also as a poor bastard, this is the best way for me to get into the fractal effects.....which, no, I don't already own.

Also, what doesn't the vp4 replace here?

 

[jellodog]

And as far as I can understand, it's about having access to 4 simultaneous Fractal effects in one box and either running it stand alone or integrated into a pedalboard - and with all the flexibility that the Fractal platform provides through those 4 switches.

Yep.

It's also about quality over quantity in terms of those 4 simultaneous effects. High quality audio path components, high quality rendering of reverbs delays etc. No tone suck.

 

[Lysander]

I was just wondering why all my "peers" were slobbering all over this new release while I was scratching my head.

The tl;dr is that Fractal effects are really good

 

[HotRats]

Just tired of seeing people who wouldn't use a product anyway, shit on it just because they can't see a use. Also, last I checked....I said MY pedalboard.....so, yep.

Come on, comments about a product are just comments about a product. Unless a they are written in an unpleasant and provocative way there's no need to read them as shitting over a product.