Fractal Audio Systems AM4 - Amp Modeler
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Sounds like shite to me. People can pry my Deusenberg star player in sparkly black out of my cold dead hands. It’s a magnificent guitar with utterly exemplary build quality.Dude obviously can make guitars play well and does great work - the folks that return to him wouldn’t do so otherwise.
But nothing ever made me GAS for a Deusenburg until he started complaining so much about them
paisleywookiee
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I might give the HX Effects a try. You can pick them up all day long under $400, and I've always liked Helix stuff.
SillyOctpuss
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How do you find the FF into your HX stomp? I always struggled running a FF into my stomp, I didn't think it sounded very good.
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It's virtual "amp dependent".
No seriously, I've gotten pretty cool recorded tones with a FF into an HX. I probably used a plexi model.
Sorry, not trying to answer for the raw one -- @sashimi
sashimi
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Sounds great to me, I love it. I think the cab/IR is the most important factor followed by the amp model. I like the Ventoux or the Super Reverb with the 112 open cast cab or a single mic York Twin IR. I haven’t tried it with a Marshall/celestion combo because it’s just not my thing, it’s probably just me but I think 412 celestion IRs make everything sound weird.
SillyOctpuss
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It's virtual "amp dependent".
No seriously, I've gotten pretty cool recorded tones with a FF into an HX. I probably used a plexi model.
Sorry, not trying to answer for the raw one -- @sashimi
I never managed to get a sound that I was very happy with regardless of which amp I tried. It was ok but not great.
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Well it's definitely not the same as pummeling a real Marshall into an actual 4x12 while standing in front of it, but what can you expect at a fraction of the price.
paisleywookiee
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that'll fry more than one kind of egg.
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Well it's definitely not the same as pummeling a real Marshall into an actual 4x12 while standing in front of it, but what can you expect at a fraction of the price.
I liked a lot of ODs and delays into my stomp, I used a lot of pedals with mine. Big muffs seemed to work better for me than a FF, it's the one pedal I couldn't get a tone I was happy with into my stomp. I tried a bunch of different ones too but it just wasn't for me.
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I can understand that. I do like a real FF into the stomp over the HX FF though. Theirs just doesn't have the same girth and bigness, although I've been able to get some decent tones from it too.
SillyOctpuss
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With you on that. I did not like the Modelled FF at all and I like a lot of the L6 drive pedals.
Some of the muffs are pretty decent.
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The Helix FF seems pretty flat and dull compared to my 69, but it’s usable.
I like an overdrive pedal on edge of breakup after the 69 and into an amp model set pretty clean, the same way I would with a Fender amp.
I look forward to seeing how AM4 models react to the 69, when I eventually get one. I expect it to be an improvement, but I am so happy with the Ventoux in HX that I am skeptical it can be that big of an improvement.
I like an overdrive pedal on edge of breakup after the 69 and into an amp model set pretty clean, the same way I would with a Fender amp.
I look forward to seeing how AM4 models react to the 69, when I eventually get one. I expect it to be an improvement, but I am so happy with the Ventoux in HX that I am skeptical it can be that big of an improvement.
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