Fractal Audio Systems mystery product speculation

[Achilles]

Fractal are an easy target for forum UX "experts" with too much time on their hands.

Fractal are an easy target because their UI sucks - relative to the competition - FULL STOP.

Maybe if there wasn't a cauldron of folks always making excuses for it, the company might feel a bit more
obliged towards updating it with 21st century technology.


time to get slammed by those same folks......

 

[Mongillo19]

Maybe if there wasn't a cauldron of folks always making excuses for it, the company mind feel a bit more
obliged towards updating it with 21st century tech

I feel like even if people did complain more, Cliff would still do his own thing, for better or worse

 

[Rock Chalk]

No excuses needed really. If you simply want the best modeling, you get a Fractal. If you want a shiny new UI instead, you look elsewhere.......

 

[Mongillo19]

No excuses needed really. If you simply want the best modeling, you get a Fractal. If you want a shiny new UI instead, you look elsewhere.......View attachment 27225

Imo the gap between fractal modeling and it's competition isn't as large as some make it out to be. Now as far as tone customizability, absolutely it is leagues above.

It's not like these devices that have great UIs have terrible modeling. That's just not the case

 

[Achilles]

When you choose other brands, you're compromising on that, whether you can hear it or not.

Well, there you have it!

 

[mbenigni]

 

[Rock Chalk]

Imo the gap between fractal modeling and it's competition isn't as large as some make it out to be.

I guess that's the part that's so subjective, and each individual has to choose their poison......

 

[FuzzyAce]

It's a good thing I don't have anything Fractal (yet), I'd hate to talk down to some of y'all.

 

[Rock Chalk]

Exactly

 

[duzie]

Use what works for you.
Why worry about what doesn’t?

 

[Achilles]

I'd hate to talk down to some of y'all.

Was annoying in the 2000s.
Was maddening in the 2010s.
Comes across as insecurity in 2020s.

 

[mbenigni]

It's a good thing I don't have anything Fractal (yet), I'd hate to talk down to some of y'all.

Some of these FAS guys have such good ears, they can actually hear how much a sensible UI detracts from their tone.

 

[FuzzyAce]

Some of these FAS guys have such good ears, they can actually hear how much a sensible UI detracts from their tone.

I like to poke of course, but I can see both sides of the argument on this one. There are legitimates points being made and some people take it differently than others. None of this stuff deeply bothers me to be honest. We all like what we like.

 

[Rock Chalk]

 

[duzie]

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Gonna save this one lol

 

[JiveTurkey]

1. I don't know the solution for people who are tired of hearing it.

2. I don't know the solution for the people who are tired of using it.

Seems to be a standstill thst we probably won't ever get past.

 

[Achilles]

I wonder if a big part of the reason Fractal doesn't stress over the UI is that in theory you shouldn't be using it much.

Then why include so many variables that 99% of the public have no clue how they affect tone without first experimenting with them?

Raise you hand if you ever used a tube amp for more than a year without ever worrying about the bias setting.

 

[mbenigni]

I like to poke of course, but I can see both sides of the argument on this one. There are legitimates points being made and some people take it differently than others. None of this stuff deeply bothers me to be honest. We all like what we like.

My point is is simply that it’s not a zero sum game. Good tones and quality of life UI improvements are not mutually exclusive. Take your best in class modeler (arguably FAS), clean up the front end a bit. Insert why not both meme.

I get that the products as they stand today “are what they are”, pick your poison, etc. We’ve all done that already. But this is a chat forum about gear. Lo, we are chatting about gear.

 

[Mongillo19]

1. I don't know the solution for people who are tired of hearing it.

2. I don't know the solution for the people who are tired of using it.

Seems to be a standstill thst we probably won't ever get past.

 

[DrewJD82]

Samoyed?
I got one of those...

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Husky/Samoyed! It's like twice the fur of a usual husky or samoyed with all verbal whining of a husky!