Boss GM-800 and GK-5

[JiveTurkey]

I take that back; found some more images, and it does look like it'll have onboard sounds. Maybe it is a GR successor, sans VG stuff (since that's built into the SY-1000).

Post em up!

 

[BROCKSTAR]

I very much doubt this is another SY. I'm thinking new pickup, new tracking, pitch to MIDI only with outputs to USB and MIDI. A modern GI-10/20.

EDIT

And no, I have no insider info on this one.

Definitely not a gi type unit as the picture clearly shows "Sweep Strings" indicating there's synthesis inside the unit.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Post em up!

I can't find anything on the rear, but this is just too much for it to be just a converter.

 

[mbenigni]

I can't find anything on the rear, but this is just too much for it to be just a converter.

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Between this and the "proprietary" TRS cable, it looks like a stripped down, pedalboard-friendly SY-1000 with a new serialized transmission of hex data. Probably guitar audio on tip and hex on ring in compressed digital format (or vice versa). I'd consider that a good idea and a major step forward over the old 13-pin cable - I only wish they'd done this 10 years ago, when I still cared.

 

[TJontheRoad]

SW rep called me back after I inquired. Wouldn't tell much me of anything other than confirming it's much like a wireless SY-1000 based on my guess. I don't know he's even sure that's true or not. He didn't seem to be that understanding yet. I probably know more about the guitar synth stuff that he does. So take that for what it's worth. August release confirmed. I put my name on one for now. We'll see...

Price is $749

 

[paisleywookiee]

Between this and the "proprietary" TRS cable, it looks like a stripped down, pedalboard-friendly SY-1000 with a new serialized transmission of hex data. Probably guitar audio on tip and hex on ring in compressed digital format (or vice versa). I'd consider that a good idea and a major step forward over the old 13-pin cable - I only wish they'd done this 10 years ago, when I still cared.

I sure hope not. I've never gelled with the SY sounds, and would prefer pitch to MIDI and PCM sounds.

 

[paisleywookiee]

SW rep called me back after I inquired. Wouldn't tell much me of anything other than confirming it's much like a wireless SY-1000 based on my guess. I don't know he's even sure that's true or not. He didn't seem to be that understanding yet. I probably know more about the guitar synth stuff that he does. So take that for what it's worth. August release confirmed. I put my name on one for now. We'll see...

Price is $749

Why would they be introducing both a new cable and a wireless setup? doesn't sound right. I don't think the SW rep knows anything other than maybe the price, at this point.

EDIT

Also, I have to say I love it when these manufacturers play all toughguy with the little shops about being careful not to leak shit, but it's almost ALWAYS someone like Thomann, Sweetwater, whatever that's leaking shit.

 

[mbenigni]

I sure hope not. I've never gelled with the SY sounds, and would prefer pitch to MIDI and PCM sounds.

I don't like the SY sounds, either. To be clear, I have no idea what's in that blue box. It just looks like an SY successor to me. And that's where Roland's head seems to be at lately.

But if a hex signal is getting from point A to point B, then there are all sorts of possibilities down the road. As far as I'm concerned, the real star of the show is the pickup, not the synth. I've been looking for an improvement over the GK2/3 for years. (Of course this doesn't provide what I was looking for out of that pickup - for instance, a virtual 5-way pickup selector switch.)

 

[mbenigni]

I probably know more about the guitar synth stuff that he does.

"Probably"?

 

[TJontheRoad]

Why would they be introducing both a new cable and a wireless setup? doesn't sound right. I don't think the SW rep knows anything other than maybe the price, at this point.

EDIT

Also, I have to say I love it when these manufacturers play all toughguy with the little shops about being careful not to leak shit, but it's almost ALWAYS someone like Thomann, Sweetwater, whatever that's leaking shit.

My normal rep was off today. So, this new guy called me back. I had to stop him from giving me the basics of guitar synth stuff by telling him my experience level. Then, I asked for specifics and didn't get any further. Not sure he knew what I was talking about. I'll try my normal guy tomorrow.

 

[burningyen]

It's probably just wireless GK with 1/4 input for magnetic oickups.

Or....

ETA: Ah fudge, now I see posts about a new TRS cable for a serial hex signal. I wonder how that's gonna work.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Or....

ETA: Ah fudge, now I see posts about a new TRS cable for a serial hex signal. I wonder how that's gonna work.

That looks like a strange…….toy……

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

I can understand that. I'm a total beginner on keys, but it's certainly something I can just work on improving without having the tech get in the way.

What are you on about mr. ui . . . the whole reason you have to work on improving is because the tech of a piano-keyboard that outputs MIDI note data is entirely different than that of a guitar that outputs MIDI data.

 

[Digital Igloo]

Between this and the "proprietary" TRS cable, it looks like a stripped down, pedalboard-friendly SY-1000 with a new serialized transmission of hex data. Probably guitar audio on tip and hex on ring in compressed digital format (or vice versa). I'd consider that a good idea and a major step forward over the old 13-pin cable - I only wish they'd done this 10 years ago, when I still cared.

$100 says it's not proprietary; it's likely just a 110-ohm TRS cable (AES with 1/4" jacks). It'd be trivial for anyone with a soldering iron to build their own. I have a fairly good idea what BOSS might be doing here and if so, things are going to get exciting.

The downside is that these cables probably won't scale to lengths beyond... 20 feet or so? You need twisted pair for anything longer (XLR or CAT-6), but that's plenty long within a pedalboard rig.

 

[BROCKSTAR]

I have a fairly good idea what BOSS might be doing here and if so, things are going to get exciting.

Quit... now that makes me more excited!

 

[mbenigni]

$100 says it's not proprietary...

Hence the quotation marks. :)

I have a fairly good idea what BOSS might be doing here and if so, things are going to get exciting.

Agreed! Not sure why this didn't come along sooner. Maybe there wasn't a mux/demux solution that would meet the cost, power, and/or size requirements until now?

The downside is that these cables probably won't scale to lengths beyond... 20 feet or so? You need twisted pair for anything longer (XLR or CAT-6), but that's plenty long within a pedalboard rig.

Good point; I hadn't considered that.

 

[JiveTurkey]

$100 says it's not proprietary; it's likely just a 110-ohm TRS cable (AES with 1/4" jacks). It'd be trivial for anyone with a soldering iron to build their own. I have a fairly good idea what BOSS might be doing here and if so, things are going to get exciting.

The downside is that these cables probably won't scale to lengths beyond... 20 feet or so? You need twisted pair for anything longer (XLR or CAT-6), but that's plenty long within a pedalboard rig.

SAY THE SAFE WORD IF TRUMPETS ARE INVOLVED

 

[Digital Igloo]

Agreed! Not sure why this didn't come along sooner. Maybe there wasn't a mux/demux solution that would meet the cost, power, and/or size requirements until now?

If it's what I think it is, it's been proven and stable in (non-MI) products for years now. It's just starting to show up in this space. We've done a lot of exploration here and Yamaha/YGG has even influenced/defined some of the platform's feature set.

Again, if it's what I think it is. If so, good on BOSS.

 

[BROCKSTAR]

One thing for sure or maybe not sure, but if it had anything to do with the SY family, I would think they would have kept SY in the name and not changed it to GM. Makes no sense to make sy-300, sy-1000, sy-1, sy-200 and suddenly change to GM in the same family of synths. However they did it with GP-10 so maybe... Come on boss just tell us already lol.

 

[FuzzyAce]

BLADE RUNNER TRUMPETS OR GTFO