Boss GM-800 and GK-5

[TJontheRoad]

Why is a thumb drive required to update in this day and age? Should be able to connect it to your computer and run some update software.

I guess I’ll go buy one from Amazon and try to do this tomorrow. (I used to have a million thumb drives, but got rid of them all because nothing else in the world requires them anymore)

/end rant

Mine is plugged into a USB card reader velcro'd to the side. Much easier to deal with.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Mine is plugged into a USB card reader velcro'd to the side. Much easier to deal with.

Floppy Disc af!

 

[DanRad]

Is there a way when using a controller to split the keyboard among the parts? I'm not seeing anything like that (as opposed to splitting parts across strings or the fretboard.

 

[MadMaxG79]

and it's N O T midi..................................................................................................................................................................................................................

Sorry

 

[MadMaxG79]

The GK pickups are Lefty friendly, you just flip the pickup over, and change a setting for "reverse mounted".

Stop enabling me!!!!

 

[BROCKSTAR]

For anyone out there that thinks the gm-800 offers nothing new... Here's some things it does that other roland / boss guitar synths don't do.

1) Fretboard splits. Meaning you can split each part into different sections on the fretboard. (Except the 1985 Roland GM-70, but lets keep it modern and with things more people know about)

2) Warping a tone from one tone to another by dynamics. Meaning you can go from playing a piano lightly to brass when picked harder etc.

3) Vast library of sounds via zenology pro (i'm talking well over probably 10,000 tones so far) that can be imported into gm-800. We're talking different sounds from many of their past synthesizers. Biggest library than any other past roland / boss guitar synths. Not to mention you can conjure up some insane things of your own inside the plug-in and import it into gm-800.

4) Options to layer 4 voices and a rhythm voice.

I may be missing some stuff which I'll edit when I remember, but just those above definitely makes it awesome and worth it.

 

[DanRad]

Is there a way when using a controller to split the keyboard among the parts? I'm not seeing anything like that (as opposed to splitting parts across strings or the fretboard.

Anyone?

Here's what I'm hoping I'll be able to do: Play a piano part on one octave of the keyboard and then trigger a hand-clap from the rhythm section by hitting a key higher up on the keyboard. My controller doesn't split channels or anything like that. Am I gonna have to get a more sophisticated controller to make this happen (it's really important for one song we play, and it was really easy to set up on the Korg iM1 app).

 

[Hapless]

Had my second gig with it last night. Much better, since I set the piano preset to be an octave up so I didn't have to try to play the intro to On The Dark Side up past the 12th fret. I still have a lot to learn and figure out but this thing is great.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Had my second gig with it last night. Much better, since I set the piano preset to be an octave up so I didn't have to try to play the intro to On The Dark Side up past the 12th fret. I still have a lot to learn and figure out but this thing is great.

Nice! Had my 2nd gig too. My organ preset needs like a mallet sound underneath and my Trumpets preset needs another layer as well to bring up the levels a bit. My 80s saw synth needs an octave raise as well. Overall levels are still MUCH lower than the GR.

That all duly noted; this is a keeper.

 

[BROCKSTAR]

Nice! Had my 2nd gig too. My organ preset needs like a mallet sound underneath and my Trumpets preset needs another layer as well to bring up the levels a bit. My 80s saw synth needs an octave raise as well. Overall levels are still MUCH lower than the GR.

That all duly noted; this is a keeper.

I don't know if I posted this or not but someone posted this over in facebook group.

"For those of you who think the output level is low, there is a way to fix this: Go to Menu_In/Out Setting and choose Master EQ. Switch it on and adjust the IN GAIN. You can add up to 24 dB of volume. If you don't want to change the actual master output EQ, just leave the other gain parameters at 0 dB. Press Write to save the new setting. This is a system setting, so it will remain the same no matter what patch you select."

 

[JiveTurkey]

I don't know if I posted this or not but someone posted this over in facebook group.

"For those of you who think the output level is low, there is a way to fix this: Go to Menu_In/Out Setting and choose Master EQ. Switch it on and adjust the IN GAIN. You can add up to 24 dB of volume. If you don't want to change the actual master output EQ, just leave the other gain parameters at 0 dB. Press Write to save the new setting. This is a system setting, so it will remain the same no matter what patch you select."

That is awesome! I thought I saw you post that somewhere but the global eq is something I never use especially in Boss gear as I am afraid of their idiotic output select shenanigans style treatment. I will use this next gig here in the first week of October. I fixed all preset tone issues so I am ready to go other than that.

 

[Trollbait]

Two of my guitars have mounts for Triple Play

How does the GM800 track compared to your Triple play. I've read on TGP and another forum that the tracking is good for some but not for others.

 

[BROCKSTAR]

How does the GM800 track compared to your Triple play. I've read on TGP that the tracking is good for some but not for others.

With a username like that, I'm not sure I wanna answer. Feels like a trap lol.

 

[Trollbait]

With a username like that, I'm not sure I wanna answer. Feels like a trap lol

Just tired of trolls, gatekeepers, shills and influencers. You have a fishman triple play?

 

[Trollbait]

Thanks, I agree with what one of the posters, arkieboy stated on that link. Wonder how tracking error rate compares?

"the thing that kills pitch-detection synths for me is inconsistent tracking, rather than slow tracking."

I saw a demo from an excellent guitar player in India that made the GM800 look flawless but he was playing so fast it was hard to tell if tracking errors were there.

 

[paisleywookiee]

The Tripleplay has half the latency of the GM-800:

GM-800 guitar-midi latency

GM-800 guitar-midi latency

www.vguitarforums.com

For pitch to MIDI. But for internal sounds, it’s very good, and isn’t crippled like the FTP is. Steve says that in the very next post.

 

[JiveTurkey]

For pitch to MIDI. But for internal sounds, it’s very good, and isn’t crippled like the FTP is. Steve says that in the very next post.

I practiced a number of times with it. Gigged it once and it failed in the first 3 songs. No thank you on that POS.

 

[JiveTurkey]

It is good enough for John McLaughlin. He uses the wired Tripleplay Connect version:

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www.vguitarforums.com

Yeah I'm no John McLaughlin but 0 For 1 gigging success was enough for me.

 

[paisleywookiee]

The thread actually demonstrates that the internal sounds lag after the midi note is recorded. The pitch to midi to audio produced by a vst beat the pitch to audio produced by the GM-800. Audio from the GM-800 came 5 to 8 milliseconds after the midi note. How is the Fishman Tripleplay crippled?

It relies upon a computer to be useful, or a clunky pedal and then yet another device for sound generation. While the tracking is fast, it’s less forgiving than Roland/Boss tracking.

 

[paisleywookiee]

I find the tracking of the FTP to be more forgiving. The GM-800 is a sturdy gigging device. As a studio tool, it’s use is less relevant.

Good for you. I had the FTP since the V-Guitar forum group buy, while also having the GR-1, 30, 33, and 55. I don’t think the FTP did all that well, especially for piano.