A lot of people will disagree with my hardware modeler ranking

[Rock Chalk]

Well, at least guitarjon made his own thread, and didn't feel the need to go to the Fractal thread to declare his love for the Helix.

Not sure why, but a lot of people do feel that need.

Signed.....a FractalFanboi ™

 

[likitlikeyoulikeit]

I didn't think you were a dick at all tbh :)

More of a dickslclaimer than anything.

 

[sleewell]

Kemper isn’t a modeler.

BIRDS ARENT REAL

 

[metropolis_4]

When I owned the QC, at first I found the effects OK, but not amazing. Definitely usable (except for the univ vibe ). I did love being able to capture my favourite oddball drives, that was amazing.

But then I bought an HX One to supplement the QC, and it really made clear just how the L6 effects blow the QC away in every aspect, for me. Quality, variety, creativity/personality, everything. HX just destroys QC in the effects department, and since my main use is 4cm, I eventually went with the Helix Floor and have been happy ever since.

Yeah, most of the QC effects are OK on their own, but when you see the variety of effects and hear the difference in other devices you start to realize how limited and not great the QC effects really are

 

[ian_dissonance]

BIRDS ARENT REAL

Well duh, but that doesn’t make the Kemper a modeler.

 

[timbuck3]

People still use Kemper?

People still use headrush? And what’s st. Rock?

 

[Jarick]

What's wrong with the effects on the QC? Serious question. I'm not a heavy effect user but anytime I try them they sound fine to me!

Lots of good feedback in the thread...I think the effects are just limited with the QC. Not as much variety or character as something like Helix.

Kemper has delay and reverb effects that have tons of different options where you can almost build them into anything you want. And they sound really good, very organic. Would love to see QC introduce the "kitchen sink" style effects where you can build your own, kind of like the chorus engine.

 

[timbuck3]

I was only half joking. I guess people still love that platform as a whole! In terms of the profiling tech imho it's just dated. QC is more accurate and way more flexible in terms of how you can route the captures etc.

Helix is dated as is headrush who just buy up old tech and rebrand it

 

[Digital Igloo]

Helix is dated as is headrush who just buy up old tech and rebrand it

The current Helix Core modeling engine is from November 2022. It was further improved in November 2023. There will be further tweaks to the underlying engine this fall. Anyone implying Helix's engine is from 2015 hasn't been paying attention.

 

[Mongillo19]

Anyone implying Helix's engine is from 2015 hasn't been paying attention.

That's kinda Tim's thing

 

[sashimi]

Helix is dated as is headrush who just buy up old tech and rebrand it

 

[GuitarJon]

The current Helix Core modeling engine is from November 2022. It was further improved in November 2023. There will be further tweaks to the underlying engine this fall. Anyone implying Helix's engine is from 2015 hasn't been paying attention.

*mic drop

 

[synthpenguin]

There will be further tweaks to the underlying engine this fall.

Helix Core (Heracles X-1) confirmed for this fall

 

[Digital Igloo]

Helix Core (Heracles X-1) confirmed for this fall

Heracles! Heracles!

 

[JiveTurkey]

 

[la szum]

Didn't read the thread, because I feel the instant sense of Deja Vu and
how it just keeps me locked into The Matrix.



Can someone tell me if anyone said anything new in this thread? Please.

 

[la szum]

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[the swede]

People still use headrush? And what’s st. Rock?

People still use Vox Tonelab with their 30 guitars to.

Helix is dated as is headrush who just buy up old tech and rebrand it

In Music created Headrush, they bought Avid 11, made them take an already in house Akai name, and made them update the Avid 11 engine though. Still Avid people involved I think. 11 rack is still used in studios because it’s worth having it around. Tonelab is pretty dated though. But if your 30 guitars sound good with it to you, good for you.

 

[TSJMajesty]

Didn't read the thread, because I feel the instant sense of Deja Vu and
how it just keeps me locked into The Matrix.



Can someone tell me if anyone said anything new in this thread? Please.

Uh, Tim said...., wait. Nevermind.

 

[norminal]

Can someone tell me if anyone said anything new in this thread? Please.