Why no "High End" Behringer Modeler ...... seriously ?

Either by direct corporate acquisition, or by "honoring" / "emulating" any existing product, I have no doubt that Behringer have the skills and resources to make a top-tier uber modeler.

Why do I think they don't / haven't ?

There's probably - relatively speaking - not enough $$ profit margin.
That may well be true; however, since every band has only 1 mixer, and sometimes more than one guitar player (frequently), I would think that the market for digital guitar processors would be at least 2 times bigger than that of digital mixers .... and Behringer made great inroads (and a ton of money) in digital mixers.
I would never trust Behringer to offer the things we love about Line6 or Fractal: Long term support and continuous improvement.
... and that is a fair argument. When the X32 was first introduced, support for the desk was EVERYWHERE. Fast forward to today and I hear nothing but complaints about their service.
High End Behringer is a oxymoron
Well, they own MIDAS. Not sure anyone would consider the Heritage and older Pro MIDAS mixers anything other than "High End". They own TC. I AM sure I wouldn't call the TC M3000 to M6000 anything BUT high end.
Well, if at all, I'd say Wing.
Heritage ;). Of course the Studer crowd will argue :).
40 channel mixer for $2000? That's $50 bucks a channel. Such a deal!
Indeed. In fact, it is really more like a 38 input mixer though. They count the USB internal stereo as an input as well ;).
It's the Mackie, Yamaha or Peavey of the 2020s. Very capable and mid priced, not high end.
Not even close. An X32 will best every mixer Mackie and Peavey ever produced. At the time of its introduction, the $3000 X32 sounded a WORLD better than the $35000 Yamaha LS9 it competed with, and had way more features.
An X32 is in fact no high end item.
It has the sound quality and features of mixers that were 10 times as expensive. Now, lots of these companies have upped their game and compete better with the X32 now than they did some time back, but what really happened was that ALL OTHER OEMS started offering more for less as a result of the X32 launch.
I’d take an X series for live stuff over A&H, Presonus, Yamaha, and even Digico until you get into the $15k and up range.
Yep. The Wing Rack can be had for $1600 and contains the TC M3000 reverb engine in it. That reverb unit ALONE once cost $3500.00. I used to salivate at the chance to record using that unit and now it is PART of a 48 stereo channel mixer that you can buy for $1600.00. That's just crazy.
Ubiquitous ≠ high end
Agree. The X32 is Ubiquitous because it did what ONLY high end digital mixers could do for 1/10th the price when it was released. This put the kind of sound quality and features once reserved only for touring musicians within reach of a weekend warrior band ...... like mine!
No, it's "sufficient" quality. And sometimes even not exactly.
Today, an X32 rack can be purchased new for $900.00. I own one and have mixed on some pretty expensive consoles in my time. I can say for certain it is MUCH more than "sufficient".
No. I have seen some broken things on both X32 and Wing consoles more than once.
I have absolutely no reasons to defend or dismiss Behringer. But please don't tell me it's "great" quality. It's not. Just google "Behringer X32 issues". Tons of hits.
Statistically speaking, I believe the X32 has one of the best reliability ratings of any digital mixer in its market. The reason you can find lots of "X32 issues" posts is that the X32 sells 10 times more than any other digital mixer. Prior to going digital I loved my analog Allen & Heath MixWiz. The company, and mixer, were rebound for their durability. Search "Qu mixer issues" and see what you find.
I think if you come from the time when Behringer were IP thieving scum :sofa:rofl; you have that natural dislike for the company and any discussion you get in about them. I'm not saying I don't buy cheap clone BS if I feel like it but they have always struck me as slimy.
.... and so did I. I had a double whammy going on with me. I went from A&H to X32 AND gave up faders all in one product change.

I figured the X32 Rack was so in-demand when I bought it that if I didn't like it, I could easily sell it (as it sold out quickly in the first US shipment).

Bought it in 2013, still have it in 2025 and have had exactly 0 issues with it. I've mixed hundreds of shows with it, and it hasn't so much as hiccupped once in 12 years.

That is why the X32 is so prolific.

Now, back to the topic .....

Clearly Behringer has the chops to make a killer guitar processor. They seem preoccupied lately with digital keyboards though. I think that Uli has an affinity for those for some reason. Maybe he will get around to a guitar processor though. I actually hope so. Man would I love to have a guitar processor with TC M3000 verbs and delays in it! How about a guitar harmonizer that can listen to the keyboard or other guitarist (or even the entire band) and give you cord-correct guitar harmonies on a lead!).

The possibilities of a Music Group guitar processor are pretty substantial. I gotta tell you guys, if Behringer were to come out with a high end guitar processor competitor pedal for <$500.00, I would be getting one of the first ones off the boat for that as well ...... and I think a lot of people here would too.... after a few people gave reviews against their Axe III FX, Kemper, Helix, and Quad Cortex.

... and Music Group could bring it in at that price point too.

I'm just sayin ....
 
I am so pro yamaha its not funny…. Anyonr have or try their fgdp-50 drumpad thing? Looks fun and a good price vs the roland handsonic spd20
 
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