Why no "High End" Behringer Modeler ...... seriously ?

[Sascha Franck]

I think if you come from the time when Behringer were IP thieving scum

They still are.

I don't exactly have too much issues with them, though. But the X32s/Wings are what they are. Fantastic bang for the buck and quite decently operating units. For many people, that's good enough to find them great (myself included). But if you had a choice and money was no (or little of an) objection, you'd likely end up buying something else.

 

[ian_dissonance]

No. I have seen some broken things on both X32 and Wing consoles more than once.
I have absolutely no reasons to defend or dismiss Behringer. But please don't tell me it's "great" quality. It's not. Just google "Behringer X32 issues". Tons of hits.

If you google “xxxx issues” you get tons of hits. People more go to the internet to whine then they do when everything is working properly. Total fallacy argument.

 

[Sascha Franck]

If you google “xxxx issues” you get tons of hits. People more go to the internet to whine then they do when everything is working properly. Total fallacy argument.

Well ok. I have experienced some issues myself. Not as a FOH operator but as a player running into X32/Wing consoles, also using their monitoring environment and what not.

 

[ian_dissonance]

Well ok. I have experienced some issues myself. Not as a FOH operator but as a player running into X32/Wing consoles, also using their monitoring environment and what not.

And I’ve had two XR18s in IEM racks for the last 7-8 years and use an X32 regularly for FOH for the last decade without a hitch. Anecdotal information is just that. They wouldn’t be everywhere if they were consistently unreliable.

 

[Sascha Franck]

They wouldn’t be everywhere if they were consistently unreliable.

I never said that.

 

[ian_dissonance]

We’ve established it’s not expensive enough to be high end a page ago. What are you saying?

 

[Digital Igloo]

They still are.

Watch out! They might sue y'all for $250k.

 

[SillyOctpuss]

Watch out! They might sue y'all for $250k.

Wow what a dick move.

 

[pipelineaudio]

It's the Mackie, Yamaha or Peavey of the 2020s. Very capable and mid priced, not high end.

The X32 changed the entire industry in a way mackie or peavey never did. I run, because of riders, a console that costs nearly three times what the x32 does and can't do several of its most important critical functions, especially in routing

 

[pipelineaudio]

No. I have seen some broken things on both X32 and Wing consoles more than once.
I have absolutely no reasons to defend or dismiss Behringer. But please don't tell me it's "great" quality. It's not. Just google "Behringer X32 issues". Tons of hits.

And yet the exact same console, still by behringer, but called instead "M32" does everything the X32 does, that many far more expensive consoles can't, has a pretty robust reliability record. Dave Ratt himself does a teardown of the two of them.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Watch out! They might sue y'all for $250k.

Oh wow, didn't know that. What an incredible shit show.