Well that's the best on this clusterf**k

[FuzzyAce]

There's a new band name...

But pretty sure you meant "eons"...

That too!

 

[AutomationBias]

maybe this as been already posted...anyway....pretty painful to listen to if you ask me.

Thanks for posting this. Since this whole thing broke, I've been really curious about his actual playing ability. He's basically an average play-at-home guitar player who faked his way into fame. You can see the light die in his eyes as he starts to realize he can't keep up. Absolutely incredible that this dude has a signature guitar. Even more incredible that his band opened for George Benson! I wonder what Benson thought of the guy.

 

[JiveTurkey]

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

Thanks for posting this. Since this whole thing broke, I've been really curious about his actual playing ability. He's basically an average play-at-home guitar player who faked his way into fame. You can see the light die in his eyes as he starts to realize he can't keep up. Absolutely incredible that this dude has a signature guitar. Even more incredible that his band opened for George Benson! I wonder what Benson thought of the guy.

You can take any of that bunch and compare live or NAMM jams to their hyper edited and mimed cheadeos on YT.

I mean look for Ichika or Manuel Gardener.
Sadly when I first came across them I loved what they did but without a screen and mouse it’s meh.

Look for the Ibanez NAMM with Polypia and Vai, and then compare to I Amex with Shawn Lane, Paul Gilbert etc

 

[Baba]

Absolutely incredible that this dude has a signature guitar.

Unfortunately, this has turned into a "how many followers do you have? game. In a way, I understand that, the mfgs didn't create social media, and those followers DO count for exposure, but alas, how good someone is, is now only a smaller part of the equation.

I'm not sure I'd put Sophie LLoyd up against a Frank Gambale, but she has a sig Kiesel, and I doubt she would have one if she were a dude, or ugly.

 

[DrewJD82]

Look for the Ibanez NAMM with Polypia and Vai, and then compare to I Amex with Shawn Lane, Paul Gilbert etc

Hahahaha that was definitely their “Oh shit, we’re in the big boy pool now” moment.

 

[PLX]

I'm not sure I'd put Sophie LLoyd up against a Frank Gambale

I'd like Sophie Lloyd up against me.

 

[Holden Afart]

Speaking of chicks.

This one might be kind of cute without the neck tattoo.

 

[PLX]

Speaking of chicks.

This one might be kind of cute without the neck tattoo.

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The Satan neck tattoo is to hide the Adam's apple removal scar.

 

[norminal]

Speaking of chicks.

This one might be kind of cute without the neck tattoo.

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[Holden Afart]

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[Iron1]

The two biggest surprises I’ve had since that first vid popped up-

“Who the fuck is this guy? Over a million followers and I’ve never even heard his name before”

then when reading the comments in HIS videos

“Oh wow, his fan base really seems to support his shitty behavior”

The amount of people arguing that the people who had their music stolen were lucky to have it stolen by someone so popular is just….I hadn’t realized humanity had gone quite that far in that direction.

Surely you were around at the time of Napstergate. Where countless people decried their “right” to steal music was being ruined by Lars…






When we all know Lars was only ruining Metallica.

 

[PLX]

When we all know Lars was only ruining Metallica.

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

The two biggest surprises I’ve had since that first vid popped up-

“Who the fuck is this guy? Over a million followers and I’ve never even heard his name before”

then when reading the comments in HIS videos

“Oh wow, his fan base really seems to support his shitty behavior”

The amount of people arguing that the people who had their music stolen were lucky to have it stolen by someone so popular is just….I hadn’t realized humanity had gone quite that far in that direction.

Yeah I had seen one clip of his at NAMM not knowing who he is and filed it under comic release

 

[newpedals]

My hot take:
It's kinda hilarious to see the "fair use" crowd decry infringement of intellectual property.
Soo many youtube personalities have built their reach with "reaction videos" or "presenting" multitracks or "teaching" other people's music, it's not even funny.

I watched a funny video of a young musician reacting to a Gary Moore performance. It was not funny but he said that his mind was blown. I was like, what else did you expect?

 

[Baba]

My hot take:
It's kinda hilarious to see the "fair use" crowd decry infringement of intellectual property.
Soo many youtube personalities have built their reach with "reaction videos" or "presenting" multitracks or "teaching" other people's music, it's not even funny.

Right, but don't you think the big difference is, those other vids you are talking about, clearly state what they are, while this asshat just posts music and doesn't give ANYONE credit? Like, you would NEVER know, and almost no one did know, that he wasn't playing HIS music, or even really playing at all.

In a reaction vid, or like my own cover vids, usually the credited band/song name is posted in the title, or you're explaining what you're doing.

That's a lot different, methinks.

 

[woody]

Right, but don't you think the big difference is, those other vids you are talking about, clearly state what they are, while this asshat just posts music and doesn't give ANYONE credit? Like, you would NEVER know, and almost no one did know, that he wasn't playing HIS music, or even really playing at all.

In a reaction vid, or like my own cover vids, usually the credited band/song name is posted in the title, or you're explaining what you're doing.

That's a lot different, methinks.

To answer your question: I think he is performing covers.
And I honestly don't get what the problem is with performing covers on social media if all the other use cases are fine.

I've been schooled above that it's OK and best practice to just use any composition for youtube without asking and let the right holders and content ID sift out the unlicensed material.
How is this essentially different from that in any shape or form?
Perhaps I'm dense, but I don't see a meaningful difference, there.
And I'm not ever trying to be provocative.

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

To answer your question: I think he is performing covers.
And I honestly don't get what the problem is with performing covers on social media if all the other use cases are fine.

I've been schooled above that it's OK and best practice to just use any composition for youtube without asking and let the right holders and content ID sift out the unlicensed material.
How is this essentially different from that in any shape or form?
Perhaps I'm dense, but I don't see a meaningful difference, there.
And I'm not ever trying to be provocative.

The answer is money… nobody worries if someone makes a buck of shit they made a cent off but when it becomes real numbers folks have an issue.

Ethics… as musicians we’re not supposed to rip each other off. Like no rehearsal room ever got burglarised by other musicians.

Pitch forks…getting busted with your pants around the ankles and angry mob make for good drama.

My take away is that nobody likes failed fakers except his “fans” that still think the emperor has new clothes.

 

[HotRats]

To answer your question: I think he is performing covers.
And I honestly don't get what the problem is with performing covers on social media if all the other use cases are fine.

I've been schooled above that it's OK and best practice to just use any composition for youtube without asking and let the right holders and content ID sift out the unlicensed material.
How is this essentially different from that in any shape or form?
Perhaps I'm dense, but I don't see a meaningful difference, there.
And I'm not ever trying to be provocative.

All this tragedy is not about music, is about integrity.

There's nothing wrong in performing covers if you communicate that to your audience or the context makes it clear for you.

Playing covers and presenting them as your music is a whole different story, morally and even legally.

If you add that the guy is 100% faking his playing, presenting himself as a player he is not and he is making money doing it well....you get the picture.

That guy is a scammer acting like a scammer.

 

[woody]

That guy is a scammer acting like a scammer.

No question about that.

My point is: Nothing about this case is really new or should come as a surprise.
As I tried to allude above, social media has a longstanding tradition to disenfranchise artists and creators out of their rightful royalties.
(I'm not gonna put meself in hot water again going more explicit than that.)
Second, instagram and other platforms are built around filters. Acting surprised in 2025 when you find out that social media content is edited and fake is...
Dunno.
Soo much of youtube guitar content has been fake for so long.
Most stuff on social media is not "authentic" in any sense.

I understand is that Turra is a confluence of sorts, where content creators feel the pain of being scammed themselves and creators feel the problems of the autheticity crisis of social media in 2025.

To me this is a "kill the messenger" situation. It's all been there for quite some time for everyone who wanted to see.
Watch what happens when the next Turra turns out to be an AI model and not even a real person.
Fully automated AI content guitar channels are coming.