no lock nuts, no retain bar, anyone else do this?

[tomikem]

Saw this Darryl symms vid about modes (very good). Rewatched it, and noticed on his Ibanez the neck had no locking nuts, no retaining bar at all. He still used his tremolo a bit. Just simple strat style neck nut setup...

Just wondering. Does anyone else do this?

I guess the strings should probably only touch the front edge of the nut, stay clear of the back of the nut, then straight to the tuners. And your good to go? Dunno. Will try someday.

Heres two pics to see. Just zoom in....

 

[QQQ]

Have seen it before, but never tried it. I haven’t had a Floyd equipped guitar in a while. I wonder if there would be additional string movement doing bends, or heavy vibrato, on the first few frets?

 

[mbenigni]

I did this for a while on one of my FR-equipped guitars. Installed locking tuners and replaced the nut with a non-locking ebanol nut. Thought it would be easier. Tuning stability was never great, though, and I've since returned everything to stock.

 

[Chocol8]

With a well designed and well done headstock and nut it should work just fine. With a Gibson style 3x3 angled clusterfuck forget it.

 

[Sidler72]

I believe the Guthrie Govan signature Charvel has a Floyd and a regular nut. I’ve never played one so I’m not sure how well it works.

 

[QQQ]

I believe the Guthrie Govan signature Charvel has a Floyd and a regular nut. I’ve never played one so I’m not sure how well it works.

The one I played was pretty average honestly. It has the baby Floyd with no fine tuners. Tuning stability is better on my Tyler Classic with a Wilkinson trem and bone nut.

 

[OrganicZed]

I believe the Guthrie Govan signature Charvel has a Floyd and a regular nut. I’ve never played one so I’m not sure how well it works.

I have two Tom Anderson guitars with that same configuration (baby floyd, locking tuners, graphtech nut). The tuning is very stable. I typically tune the guitars once per day to compensate for the drift that occurs with temperature and humidity changes. Stability wise they are just as good as my Suhr modern with a double locking Gotoh 1996t setup. The biggest difference is the rate of pitch change. The double locking has more range and smaller movements of the bridge yield larger pitch changes due to the shorter effective string length.