Van Halen: Live Without A Net
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Hot take:
Sammy was the only way to go.
DLR was becoming cliche in the mainstream, and the imitators were the predominant reason for it. (Super shredding guitar players were next in line after the front man)
Ed stepping out on keys broadened what they could do, and Hagar was right guy, at the right time.
5150 is an amazing VH record, I don't care what anybody says.
ou812 is a pop rock record with leftover guitar riffs from earlier days (DLR, Hagar, and Anthony have commented) - and I still enjoy it.
F.U.C.K. is a VH record only achievable because of Hagar being in the band & VH embracing their LZ influence. (Andy Johns produced the tracks!)
Balance only happened because Bruce Fairbairn kept them together after Leffler's passing.
Anything after that has merits, however not many reaching the heights of the aforementioned.
Highlights:
BOV1 tunes, the 2000 snippets of a failed DLR reunion (which are non existent for public consumption), some tracks off of A Different Kind of Truth (As Is, is one of my personal favorite VH songs) and Unfinished from Alex's biography, which might be bones of the unrelease song Between Us Two.
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I think that's not as hot a take as you think. Sammy was a great choice; even if I don't dig his lyric slants. Definite contrast to DLR while still having perv capabilities
DKOT is one of my favorites for a variety of probably oddball reasons.
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He kind of has a "Sammy-ish if he sang smoother" vibe. Great guitar player as well!
All the songs on that record where people had never heard demos, ie: You and Your Blues, China Town, As Is, & Stay Frosty, hit well as songs - we could argue about production and vocals, yadda yadda yadda. Regardless it was like hearing fresh VH! Blood and Fire, and Hunniebabysweetiedoll, as well even though Ripley & Act Like it Hurts existed first.I think that's not as hot a take as you think. Sammy was a great choice; even if I don't dig his lyric slants. Definite contrast to DLR while still having perv capabilities
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I think Tattoo ruined the intial perception of ADKOT for a lot of people. I can see why you feel that way about the album, too. I can also see EVH being a great dad in this way and doing it for his son which endears the record to me actually even more, even if it isn't a real thing that happened
On that short lived reunion stretch; "Can't Get That Stuff No More" ESPECIALLY was
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Hell yeah, Can't Get That Stuff No More". is awesome!I think Tattoo ruined the intial perception of ADKOT for a lot of people. I can see why you feel that way about the album, too. I can also see EVH being a great dad in this way and doing it for his son which endears the record to me actually even more, even if it isn't a real thing that happened
On that short lived reunion stretch; "Can't Get That Stuff No More" ESPECIALLY was
It’s an Edit. They opened with You Really Got Me. Then played One Way To Rock.Man, Sammy had a lot of balls, kicking things off with one of his own songs and playing guitar beside Eddie…
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I've heard version of it (not from LWAN) which are super fast!
LWAN is amazing - NUFF SAID!
I still say the production on ADKOT is the culprit.
Ed recorded through his Marshall, a 5150, and a 5150iii, and I still don't understand how Hogarth/Shanks split the tone.
Ed had said multiple times after VH3, he wasn't too keen on new music anymore because the public had an expectation of VH and he couldn't step out. (Hence ADKOT having so many older re-worked demos - even though that was always par for the course - 1 of the 2 BOV1 songs with Dave was a leftover tune from the Balance sessions)
I honestly think Wolf inspired Ed, and if it wasn't for Wolf, we probably wouldn't have gotten anything.
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