Tylers , a couple in for work.

[bucephalus]

That second one is fugly to my eyes, first one is nice though and definitely prefer the less shouty headstock

 

[State of Epicicity]

So it's the neck with the most structural integrity plus lightweight body woods and the stabilizing tubes. It reminds me of the Mitch Hedberg joke: "They say the recipe for Sprite is lemon and lime. I tried to make it at home. There's more to it than that."

 

[Eagle]

So it's the neck with the most structural integrity plus lightweight body woods and the stabilizing tubes. It reminds me of the Mitch Hedberg joke: "They say the recipe for Sprite is lemon and lime. I tried to make it at home. There's more to it than that."

Not necessarily just light but within a tight tolerance ( or weight range in this case probably with similar cut and grain patterns ) so the resonance is predictable and not problematic with the neck.

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

The main problem with trying to produce a budget version of a high end guitar is the fact that a high end guitar is mainly that because of the time spent in addition to what is needed to produce it. Extra materials cost can also rack up but on a painted alder Strat that’s not going to make 5x the price.
Rasmus guitars failed because the Chinese producer was only doing the simple part of the process that took the least skilled builders and subsequently a small percentage of the labour cost. By the time they shipped it to the USA to be plek dressed and finished it was a cheap guitar that cost most of the same in labour. A fail on paper before you start really. In order to get cost down you either need a factory that can do it all overseas or do less .

It remains to be seen how it plays out but I can tell you that the set-up on my Chinese was as good as on my US. Which I didn’t have to Putz with.
The Japanese ones needed 5 minutes of setting up. Which is negligible.

Point for me is this in this slightly above 2k Strats I see 2 choices for my needs this or a Fender Coma.
And if like a student of mine was trying to find a guitar at level it’d mosdef not be an Ibanez.

 

[hemmelight]

Dang, I'm gassing hard for this 10th Anniversary Japan Studio Elite.

Thoughts on the "mamywo" body wood? Is it like an alternative alder or mahogany variant?
Just curious to know if there's some conventional wisdom I'm not privy to.

 

[FuzzyAce]

Dang, I'm gassing hard for this 10th Anniversary Japan Studio Elite.

Thoughts on the "mamywo" body wood? Is it like an alternative alder or mahogany variant?
Just curious to know if there's some conventional wisdom I'm not privy to.

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That's sexy.

 

[2112]

Dang, I'm gassing hard for this 10th Anniversary Japan Studio Elite.

Thoughts on the "mamywo" body wood? Is it like an alternative alder or mahogany variant?
Just curious to know if there's some conventional wisdom I'm not privy to.

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IIRC that stands for "Malaysian Mystery Wood" most likely Jelutong, which is more like poplar.

 

[FuzzyAce]

IIRC that stands for "Malaysian Mystery Wood" most likely Jelutong, which is more like poplar.

It reminds me of rubber wood, which I see it used in a lot of prefab products -- mainly drawer box material or in work benches.

 

[jellodog]

IIRC that stands for "Malaysian Mystery Wood" most likely Jelutong, which is more like poplar.

Riiight…

BUT IS IT ANY GOOOOOD, LEON?

 

[jellodog]

used in a lot of prefab products -- mainly drawer box material or in work benches.

 

[FuzzyAce]

I didn't say it was bad?! I work with it all the time (mainly for dove-tailed drawer boxes) and even thought about using it to make guitar bodies. Doubt I'd ever want to use it that way with clear coats though. The grain is not as attractive as others imo.

But Jelutong could be totally different in weight and hardness, I honestly don't know. I doubt Tyler would use it if it wasn't suitable.

 

[Eagle]

Bring me an AZ premium and I can make it work.
Cherry pick a S/H one and spend £300 on bench time and it will still be half the price.

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

Bring me an AZ premium and I can make it work.
Cherry pick a S/H one and spend £300 on bench time and it will still be half the price.

And it still would have an Ibanez neck.

It’s a shame that the closest to an old Charvel neck is a Fender Coma.

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

Riiight…

BUT IS IT ANY GOOOOOD, LEON?

I’m not Leon, I always shied away from it but the Jap Tyler I got here is Mamywo with maple top and it’s very much like my chambered basswood/maple Suhr was.

 

[TSJMajesty]

The main problem with trying to produce a budget version of a high end guitar is the fact that a high end guitar is mainly that because of the time spent in addition to what is needed to produce it. Extra materials cost can also rack up but on a painted alder Strat that’s not going to make 5x the price.
Rasmus guitars failed because the Chinese producer was only doing the simple part of the process that took the least skilled builders and subsequently a small percentage of the labour cost. By the time they shipped it to the USA to be plek dressed and finished it was a cheap guitar that cost most of the same in labour. A fail on paper before you start really. In order to get cost down you either need a factory that can do it all overseas or do less .

No shit.

 

[Eagle]

And it still would have an Ibanez neck.

It’s a shame that the closest to an old Charvel neck is a Fender Coma.

I can easily reshape it if needed.

 

[Eagle]

No shit.

I don’t think many people understand just how much of the price is labour. If they did they would understand why heavy relics cost so much.

 

[TSJMajesty]

I don’t think many people understand just how much of the price is labour. If they did they would understand why heavy relics cost so much.

My estimate would be, to get that end 15% quality of workmanship takes 50% more time. Not necessarily with guitars, but with woodworking in homes..., cabinets/custom built-ins and such. What do you think @FuzzyAce ?

 

[Eagle]

My estimate would be, to get that end 15% quality of workmanship takes 50% more time. Not necessarily with guitars, but with woodworking in homes..., cabinets/custom built-ins and such. What do you think @FuzzyAce ?

Even more than that with guitars.

 

[TSJMajesty]

Even more than that with guitars.

Yeah, I kinda thought so.
Dealing with tolerances that are much, much smaller. And with wood grain that shows through the finish, there are certain points during the process where you simply cannot make a mistake.