I Came Across A Couple New-To-Me Things To Work On Today

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TL;DR- read the last sentence. Lol

Any of you who either know me or have seen my posts probably know I'm mostly about trying to get better at playing guitar. I stopped playing for about 5 years about 5 years ago, then for some reason the spark came back, and I embarked on striving to learn the things I really wished I had focused on much earlier in my life. :(

I have a few styles I want to get better at, but the common elements in all the things that I can't do, but want to, are: increasing my finger speed and playing accurately wrt to timing, accents, dynamics, etc.

My trill speed is embarrassingly slow. Like, I struggle with playing well-known triplet riffs such as in the solos in Good Times Bad Times, Godzilla, & Mr. Crowley, and I've hit a plateau.

This is the Mr. Crowley riff, which is played at 106bpm, which isn't crazy fast. I can play picked 3 nps triplet riffs faster than that, but if it involves 2 nps pull-offs, fuggetaboutit! Until I can increase my trill speed, riffs like this are out-of-reach for me.
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I know about not having unnecessary tension, using the least amount of movement needed, and building finger independence. But I can't seem to find anything that specifically targets finger speed, and how to increase it. If you know of any, please post a link. But I did come across a couple new things today when I searched that topic, that I'd never seen before, so maybe they'll help. I'd really like to some day be able to play solos like the ones I mentioned above! :rawk


The first was: Place each finger on the 3rd string, from 5th to 8th frets. Then one finger at a time, without lifting the other fingers, move the finger back and forth between the 6th and 1st strings. Do this with each finger, 20x's. I took it further and did the outer and inner pairs of fingers as well, and boy did I feel a burn! So I figure I'll add this routine to see if it helps with finger independence. I already practice a good YJM riff for this, and have noticed it helping with not only finger independence, but also keeping the pinky close to the fretboard:

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The other idea I came across is to play a simple Maj7 arpeggio across the top 4 strings, this shape: string/fret 1/7 2/8 3/9 4/10. Ascending/descending.
But the trick is to keep the fingers relaxed enough that they rest slightly against the string without lifting them, and only pressing down on the string you intend to play. He showed a few variations to make it more challenging too.

I figure it'll be good for building accuracy when changing strings during a riff, since keeping a finger muting a string, as opposed to completely lifting it off the string, ensures that string can't make a sound. And it'll build further on the finger independence thing, which I figure has to be beneficial for whatever I'm playing.

I'm always on the lookout for good practice ideas, so if you have ones you like, please share 'em!
 
Thanks for posting that! I'm kind of in the same as you right now. My picking falls off a cliff when I increase my speed. Lately for the past month, I have been taking a few steps back to hopefully move forward.

I have been watching and doing a lot of the alternate picking exercises on Claus Levin's Guitarmastery YT channel from about 5-6 years ago for the past few weeks. He has a free course on it I have been working through too https://www.guitarmastery.net/p/ingenium-free-course-page-1

So far it has helped increase my speed and relax more, so I figure I will keep working on it and see where I end up with it.
 
Consistency is the largest obstacle that I face.
Continually looking for a better practice routine results in me seemingly chasing my own tail .
 
Play sections of solos that you like and move the patterns diatonically through different scales . Basically anything to avoid over playing scale segments for practice. Buckethead constantly does this with the arpeggio section of Scarified. He splits the line in two and repeats the first part moving it to configure with the notes needed . It's used all over Soothsayer and when you recognise it you can see just how much you can get out of a fingering and picking pattern . The Nuno solo in rise (the hard bit) is one pattern repeated 8 times.
 
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The Nuno solo in rise (the hard bit) is one pattern repeated 8 times.

I’m really tempted to go home and learn that part tonight just to end the delay/no delay debate on GN. I’m not hearing a .8 delay in there at all and my mind is telling it’s a repeated Pick-Hammer-on-Pick-Hammer-on-Pick-Hammer-on thing, I think people are confusing the hammer on’s for delay repeats.
 
Nuno has used that percussive/partially muted pick.... hammer on... pick .... hammer on technique all over
the Extreme catalog.

Alas, idiots will continue to still be idioting. :idk
 
There is no delay . The notes tell you that. If there was a delay line it would cause a predictable note repeat at the same time interval for every note and that isn’t there.
 
Bad ears and ill-conceived conclusions are bad ears and ill-conceived conclusions. :ROFLMAO:
 
Increase your single string speed need to play the parts seperately...only left hand with hammer one from nowhere (no pull offs) so if you go to a lower nite still a hammer.

And the right hand seperate.
For Finger stretchy stuff, especially since pinky and ring are on the same tendon...

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As for the Crowley lick if you alternate pick it switches between in and outside picking iiregardless of if you start on an up or down stroke.
That's the hardest way to roll.
D U outside string change d outside up outside d u inside

Or...
U d inside u inside d inside u d outside

Of course you could use a sweep
D u d d u d

Or start adding pull offs

U d u d u p
U p d d u p
D p d d u p
D p u d u p
And of course
D p h d u p
 
There is no delay . The notes tell you that. If there was a delay line it would cause a predictable note repeat at the same time interval for every note and that isn’t there.
Are we talking this type of lick?
I think that's off something on 3 Sides
E-------
B------
G------
D------
A--------0-3-5------0-3----l
E--0-3-5------0-3-5----5---l

Whereas he did the same in Decadence Dance this way

E-------
B------
G------
D---------------------------5--l
A-------------5-0-3-5-0-3----l
E--0-3-5-0-3------------------l

Sure AF not cheated via delay like Mutha.

Another guy that did this a lot i ripped off prior to Nuno was Ronnie LeTekro from TNT.
 
Increase your si glen stri g speed kear to play the parts seperately...only left hand with hammer one from nowhere (no pull offs) so if you go to a lower nite still a hammer.


This is all great stuff, thank you. Can you clarify that part ^^^?

I get “Increase your single string speed”… then what should “kear” be?
 
Oh and to expand on that left hand only thing.
The OPs YJM line is a perfect example.
The right hand for that on up even at up tempo a mo key with boxing gloves could coast through.
The tricky part is quickly shifting positions with the left while keeping the time.
And that's where practicing with only left hand hammers comes in handy.
 
And hike I'm at it dispensing useless info...
Anything you already know like the Rhoads lick that's in 16thvtriplets also play it in 16th or 5ths.
Or the YJM thing play it in 3, 5 or 6 instead of 4s
 
I’m really tempted to go home and learn that part tonight just to end the delay/no delay debate on GN. I’m not hearing a .8 delay in there at all and my mind is telling it’s a repeated Pick-Hammer-on-Pick-Hammer-on-Pick-Hammer-on thing, I think people are confusing the hammer on’s for delay repeats.
No delay and pick open string then, hammer, hammer.
Some of them are hammer one from nowhere.
He's doing something similar on a tune on Pornigraffiti.
 
And hike I'm at it dispensing useless info...
Anything you already know like the Rhoads lick that's in 16thvtriplets also play it in 16th or 5ths.
Or the YJM thing play it in 3, 5 or 6 instead of 4s
I somehow missed your replies Ed. Thanks.

I change sextuplets to 16th's and vice-versa a lot.

And turning a simple {A- 5h7h8 D- 5h7h8p7p5 A h8p7p repeat} into a triplet riff moves the accents onto different notes until it comes around. Again, helping to un-link the pinky/ring fingers.
 
I somehow missed your replies Ed. Thanks.

I change sextuplets to 16th's and vice-versa a lot.

And turning a simple {A- 5h7h8 D- 5h7h8p7p5 A h8p7p repeat} into a triplet riff moves the accents onto different notes until it comes around. Again, helping to un-link the pinky/ring fingers.
Also since ring and pinky share a tendon use middle ring or middle pinky at first.
 
Also since ring and pinky share a tendon use middle ring or middle pinky at first.
So what do you recommend to increase my index/pinky trill speed? (Or any trills really. My pinky is just the slowest.)

Does building stamina=increased speed?
 
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