Tonex Pedal....It's REAL

[2dor]

Man it is a shame IK did not release some kind of capture hardware at the start. then there would be some kind of standard value instead of all this guess work. All of my QC captures are level aligned because they are all captured with a QC. I'm sure Kemper is the same but Tonocracy, ToneX, Genome, anything based on NAM, these are all gonna be all over the place.

They did - the ToneX Capture.

 

[Elric]

They did - the ToneX Capture.

I mean a hardware device, like QC that also does capture; an all-in-one that does captures to serve as a baseline, such that levels would be normalized and everyone delivering captures for the platform would have to align or users would complain/etc.

By releasing everything piecemeal, VST, optional capture box, stand alone player; the door is open on all of the VSTs to basically be the wild west as far as levels go. It is a major drawback vs Kemper, QC, etc; IMHO.

The buy-in is cheaper but the results are all over the place, IMHO. My QC is way more consistent for caps and levels vs ToneX even though ToneX is theoretically "more accurate".

 

[northern_fox]

Thanks. Just looking at what my options are now for something that can get me good amp sounds but also portable & not crazy complicated to switch between.

I'd hold out for Dimehead!

I leave the tonex input at -12 to -15 dB btw, and boost into it instead. For some reason, this improves my noise floor

 

[2dor]

I'd hold out for Dimehead!

That unit looks good but that price tag's a bit high. For band practice/gigging, could grab a used FM3 for a bit more.
I'll definitely wait it out until some reviews for the unit come rolling, then I'll make a decision.

 

[northern_fox]

Fair, I'll be picking it up as soon as it's available :)

 

[2dor]

Fair, I'll be picking it up as soon as it's available :)

I'll be nagging you for opinions as soon as you get it lol

 

[Sedaxel]

I mean a hardware device, like QC that also does capture; an all-in-one that does captures to serve as a baseline, such that levels would be normalized and everyone delivering captures for the platform would have to align or users would complain/etc.

By releasing everything piecemeal, VST, optional capture box, stand alone player; the door is open on all of the VSTs to basically be the wild west as far as levels go. It is a major drawback vs Kemper, QC, etc; IMHO.

The buy-in is cheaper but the results are all over the place, IMHO. My QC is way more consistent for caps and levels vs ToneX even though ToneX is theoretically "more accurate".

I couldn´t agree more. I guess this should be clear now... I don´t even use NAM with online captures because I just don´t feel like trying and guessing. I just use it with my own captures because I can compare with my real amp and fine tune the gain of the profile.

For me, Tonocracy is the only solution that fixes a bit that issue. Apart from that, only Kemper/QC/Headrush can guarantee good leveling of captures.

 

[dronerstone]

Anyone seen the Tonex Mini EDIT: Tonex One leak (or "leak"?) over at TOP?

Not for me at all, but some are gonna enjoy having a Mooer-sized Tonex player that can store a good bunch of profiles.

Apparently, it's priced slightly above 200 bucks, which I guess is fair enough.

 

[2dor]

Anyone seen the Tonex Mini leak (or "leak"?) over at TOP?

Not for me at all, but some are gonna enjoy having a Mooer-sized Tonex player that can store a good bunch of profiles.

Apparently, it's priced slightly above 200 bucks, which I guess is fair enough.

No. Links?

 

[dronerstone]

No. Links?

IK Multimedia TONEX One

Saw this in a Facebook group. Seems to be an early leak. Not seeing much about it elsewhere. https://musiccitycanada.com/products/ik-multimedia-tonex-one-guitar-pedal

www.thegearpage.net

"A complete live rig in the palm of your hand

TONEX One delivers the same cutting-edge amp, cab, and pedal tones as TONEX Pedal, but in a pocket-sized, streamlined device. TONEX One can replace any amp, boost, overdrive, distortion, or fuzz pedal, and its small size allows it to fit anywhere on any pedalboard. And with adjustable knob colors, any artist can afford to stack and configure as many independent effects as they need and easily tell them apart on stage. With the world's best tones taking up half the size of a traditional stomp pedal, there's no limit to what a pedalboard can do.

FEATURES:
• Advanced AI Machine Modeling™ technology for hyper-realistic tone
• Play models of amps, amps+cabs, combos or distortion, overdrive, fuzz, boost and EQ pedals
• Stores up to 8 banks of 3 Tone Models each (2 for dual mode, 1 for bypass mode)
• Gain, bass, mid, treble, and volume controls
• Onboard EQ, gate, compressor and reverb
• Tracks all on-stage changes with “always saved” behavior
• Dual A/B or on/off operating modes
• Cabinet bypass to connect to traditional rigs
• TRS stereo output to connect to other pedals, PA or headphones
• Runs on standard 9v pedal power supplies
• Also works as a USB audio interface for recording
• Access to ToneNET to share, download and load over 25,000 free and premium Tone Models

An endless ecosystem of tone

TONEX One offers complete access to the TONEX ecosystem. Connecting to a computer via USB-C, users can load dozens of included Tone Models, any they create themselves, or choose from over 25,000 available Tone Models on ToneNET. Just connect the included TONEX Librarian to easily load, save and manage all Tone Models in seconds.

Two modes, unlimited possibilities TONEX One offers 2 performance modes: The dual preset mode hosts two presets, allowing the footswitch to toggle between them. It functions akin to a two channel amp - artists can have both clean and crunch sounds in one box, easily toggling between two completely different sets of Tone Models and settings.

The on-off mode works just like most pedals, toggling between a single preset and a bypassed state. This mode makes TONEX One an ideal overdrive pedal offering limitless choices of overdrive, fuzz and more. Best of all, TONEX One lets users save up to 8 banks of unique dual/on-off combinations, for a total of 24 total onboard Tone Models. With the ability to stack multiple TONEX One on a single board, the combinations are endless."

 

[laxu]

Now that will probably be a big seller as it solves one of the problems with the Tonex pedal - its large size. That could potentially be a good "just throw an amp/cab sim at something" product.

I wonder if it can run the same models as the full size box or if this needs to run lower quality ones?

 

[Lysander]

Anyone seen the Tonex Mini EDIT: Tonex One leak (or "leak"?) over at TOP?

Not sure why it's not showing on the index anymore but...

IK Multimedia Tone X One?

Am I being duped or is this legit 🤣 https://musiccitycanada.com/products/ik-multimedia-tonex-one-guitar-pedal?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0BMQABHRh02HJcfPs4sX4swK6E8pOVwMRs8li1LyQqJgGwpSbrAzkiWUGMXd46Ng_aem_AeNvAh6ebvLEw3La5ehwekq8xhVEoPwlDYAqTROSzqXHNN3ViwwpTdBVQSCo3KJZcH8 Overview of IK Multimedia...

thegearforum.com

 

[dronerstone]

Not sure why it's not showing on the index anymore but...

IK Multimedia Tone X One?

Am I being duped or is this legit 🤣 https://musiccitycanada.com/products/ik-multimedia-tonex-one-guitar-pedal?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0BMQABHRh02HJcfPs4sX4swK6E8pOVwMRs8li1LyQqJgGwpSbrAzkiWUGMXd46Ng_aem_AeNvAh6ebvLEw3La5ehwekq8xhVEoPwlDYAqTROSzqXHNN3ViwwpTdBVQSCo3KJZcH8 Overview of IK Multimedia...

thegearforum.com

Into thin air.

 

[SKU]

IK Multimedia TONEX One

Saw this in a Facebook group. Seems to be an early leak. Not seeing much about it elsewhere. https://musiccitycanada.com/products/ik-multimedia-tonex-one-guitar-pedal

www.thegearpage.net

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"A complete live rig in the palm of your hand

TONEX One delivers the same cutting-edge amp, cab, and pedal tones as TONEX Pedal, but in a pocket-sized, streamlined device. TONEX One can replace any amp, boost, overdrive, distortion, or fuzz pedal, and its small size allows it to fit anywhere on any pedalboard. And with adjustable knob colors, any artist can afford to stack and configure as many independent effects as they need and easily tell them apart on stage. With the world's best tones taking up half the size of a traditional stomp pedal, there's no limit to what a pedalboard can do.

FEATURES:
• Advanced AI Machine Modeling™ technology for hyper-realistic tone
• Play models of amps, amps+cabs, combos or distortion, overdrive, fuzz, boost and EQ pedals
• Stores up to 8 banks of 3 Tone Models each (2 for dual mode, 1 for bypass mode)
• Gain, bass, mid, treble, and volume controls
• Onboard EQ, gate, compressor and reverb
• Tracks all on-stage changes with “always saved” behavior
• Dual A/B or on/off operating modes
• Cabinet bypass to connect to traditional rigs
• TRS stereo output to connect to other pedals, PA or headphones
• Runs on standard 9v pedal power supplies
• Also works as a USB audio interface for recording
• Access to ToneNET to share, download and load over 25,000 free and premium Tone Models

An endless ecosystem of tone

TONEX One offers complete access to the TONEX ecosystem. Connecting to a computer via USB-C, users can load dozens of included Tone Models, any they create themselves, or choose from over 25,000 available Tone Models on ToneNET. Just connect the included TONEX Librarian to easily load, save and manage all Tone Models in seconds.

Two modes, unlimited possibilities TONEX One offers 2 performance modes: The dual preset mode hosts two presets, allowing the footswitch to toggle between them. It functions akin to a two channel amp - artists can have both clean and crunch sounds in one box, easily toggling between two completely different sets of Tone Models and settings.

The on-off mode works just like most pedals, toggling between a single preset and a bypassed state. This mode makes TONEX One an ideal overdrive pedal offering limitless choices of overdrive, fuzz and more. Best of all, TONEX One lets users save up to 8 banks of unique dual/on-off combinations, for a total of 24 total onboard Tone Models. With the ability to stack multiple TONEX One on a single board, the combinations are endless."

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Would be nice if they released they rev/delay/mod pedals in this format. It would be extra nice if they allowed for chaining them with TRS cables and allow digital communication between the units to avoid latency.

 

[laxu]

Would be nice if they released they rev/delay/mod pedals in this format. It would be extra nice if they allowed for chaining them with TRS cables and allow digital communication between the units to avoid latency.

I really doubt digital connections will happen in that form factor, but otherwise I do agree.

 

[GTR37]

Anyone seen the Tonex Mini EDIT: Tonex One leak (or "leak"?) over at TOP?

Not for me at all, but some are gonna enjoy having a Mooer-sized Tonex player that can store a good bunch of profiles.

Apparently, it's priced slightly above 200 bucks, which I guess is fair enough.

That’s a Canadian site , Stateside should be about $189

 

[Lysander]

That’s a Canadian site , Stateside should be about $189

$199, most likely. Still a terrific price!

 

[jellodog]

"Up to 123 dB dynamic range". How is IK getting that figure?

It seems hard to believe for this tiny pedal, compared to pro interfaces that cost 10 times the price or the Axe-Fx III which don't reach that level. I suppose without the context of how that figure is measured it doesn't mean very much

 

[Lysander]

"Up to 123 dB dynamic range". How is IK getting that figure?

"Up to" might be doing a lot of work here The big Tonex pedal uses Texas Instruments PCM1863 (A-D) and PCM1789 (D-A) converters, both of which have a SNR of ~110dB.

There are some ways to improve signal-to-noise ratios on DACs (f.ex. summing channels), but i don't think you can realistically squeeze +120dB out of these.

 

[jellodog]

Thanks for identifying the specific part names @Lysander . That's really interesting. I love to know these sorts of details.