Thinking about selling the Stealth

[JiveTurkey]

The Recto absolutely BURIES the Stealth. Full stop. Not selling because matching set with the 112s is and the greatest Modeler Accessory ever built. But gatdamn the MW is

 

[spawnofthesith]

The Recto absolutely BURIES the Stealth. Full stop. Not selling because matching set with the 112s is and the greatest Modeler Accessory ever built. But gatdamn the MW is

When I got the 5153 6L6 it kind of replaced my use of the roadster for a good bit as it kind of “solved some recto problems for my hyper specific use case” with a similar end result in a more convenient package. However I didn’t think it sounded -quite- as good as the roadster, and after primarily using the EVH for a bit I kind of had a “re falling in love” scenario with the Mesa. but shortly after I traded the roadster for the Mark V lol. Still want another roadster… or MW if I ever see one for the right price

 

[JiveTurkey]

When I got the 5153 6L6 it kind of replaced my use of the roadster for a good bit as it kind of “solved some recto problems for my hyper specific use case” with a similar end result in a more convenient package. However I didn’t think it sounded -quite- as good as the roadster, and after primarily using the EVH for a bit I kind of had a “re falling in love” scenario with the Mesa. but shortly after I traded the roadster for the Mark V lol. Still want another roadster… or MW if I ever see one for the right price

Great amps. For sure. But Rectos are up with OG 5150s for me as far as my home tones (I know your thoughts on the OG and I respect it. But nothing gives that same buzzy satanic blast like the OG)

 

[spawnofthesith]

Butthurt youre re igniting recto gas. I have a planned purchase back log already sir

 

[Iron1]

I love my 5150 III 6L6, but admittedly miss the Badlander… and the SLO clone’d JCA100hdm. Need to get to a place where I can justify owning all 3, and the new Recto. #goals

What cab are you running @JiveTurkey ? I have a Randall Diavlo 212 w/v30s that sounds glorious, but then I got a Mesa recto 212 w/v30s and the Randall can’t keep up.

 

[JiveTurkey]

I love my 5150 III 6L6, but admittedly miss the Badlander… and the SLO clone’d JCA100hdm. Need to get to a place where I can justify owning all 3, and the new Recto. #goals

What cab are you running @JiveTurkey ? I have a Randall Diavlo 212 w/v30s that sounds glorious, but then I got a Mesa recto 212 w/v30s and the Randall can’t keep up.

Right now I'm just using the Stealth 112 cabs. I'm not playing at gig volumes so it's plenty loud. I'm probably just going to grab a horizontal Recto 212 and call it a day. Till I can load up the 4x12, at least

 

[Iron1]

Right now I'm just using the Stealth 112 cabs. I'm not playing at gig volumes so it's plenty loud. I'm probably just going to grab a horizontal Recto 212 and call it a day. Till I can load up the 4x12, at least

The Recto 212 is not even the slightest bit insufficient for stage volume.

 

[EOengineer]

You guys remember that time we took over all the amp threads with Mesa chatter?

 

[FuzzyAce]

#neversell

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

Right now I'm just using the Stealth 112 cabs. I'm not playing at gig volumes so it's plenty loud. I'm probably just going to grab a horizontal Recto 212 and call it a day. Till I can load up the 4x12, at least

Just put some 12” casters on the horizontal 2x12 and you’ll be fine.

 

[JiveTurkey]

The Recto 212 is not even the slightest bit insufficient for stage volume.

Yeah I am not worried about it keeping up. And the 112s are plenty loud; they just aren't rated for 100 watts between the two of them. I am also running them through a Palmer cab merger as they are both 16 ohm cabs and the MW doesn't have 2 16 ohm taps.

Just put some 12” casters on the horizontal 2x12 and you’ll be fine.

Yeah that will be the one I get. Still a litttttttttttle short but manageble. I'll end up with one later this year I am sure

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

Yeah I am not worried about it keeping up. And the 112s are plenty loud; they just aren't rated for 100 watts between the two of them. I am also running them through a Palmer cab merger as they are both 16 ohm cabs and the MW doesn't have 2 16 ohm taps.

Yeah that will be the one I get. Still a litttttttttttle short but manageble. I'll end up with one later this year I am sure

 

[Deadpan]

Right now I'm just using the Stealth 112 cabs. I'm not playing at gig volumes so it's plenty loud. I'm probably just going to grab a horizontal Recto 212 and call it a day. Till I can load up the 4x12, at least

I suggest looking at an older model and checking the speakers.

 

[JiveTurkey]

I suggest looking at an older model and checking the speakers.

 

[KingsXJJ]

I hate to weigh in here uninvited with a somewhat negative view but here I go anyway. I am not a fan at all of the Celestion G30H Anni drivers in the 1x12 or 2x12 EVH Cabs. But I do like the cabs themselves quite a bit. I bought mine back when they were priced nicely and swapped out the drivers for speakers that met my needs a lot better. Sold the stock speakers as practically new which offset the cost quite a bit. Ended up with cabs loaded with drivers of my choice quite reasonably priced. It really worked out well for me in the end. I say go for it directly and get what truly makes you happy JT. As an aside, some years ago I just burned through all of the likely candidates until I found what really suited me. It wasn’t cheap and I did have help from a cool guy out of Cedar Park, Tx who had worked for Celestion for quite a few years and, along with some great stories, he and I discussed what I was looking for (he had noticed my Craigslist ads as I burned through various speakers). His advice and input helped a lot. Now I no longer worry about it. It’s a settled matter in my mind and I’m happy.

IR’s based on that experience also suit me well which has simplified things quite a bit on the digital side as well.

Best of luck @JiveTurkey !

 

[Iron1]

Sell it!

There is no reason to have a Recto, a Stealth, and a Fractal. My love affair with the 5153 is over. It is a one trick pony. If you have a Fractal, do you really need the evh?

This is the Gear Forum, therefore the answer is automatically yes.

In reality, I have a Helix rack I use for home studio recording, a 5150 III for pro studio recording and drywall delamination, a 5150 LBX-s cause it rips and a few small amps for plug and play noodling. Do I “need” any of them? No. Is this the Gear Forum?

 

[KingsXJJ]

The 5153 is not a one trick pony IMO. It’s an affordable well-thought out consistently well built amp that sounds great if that’s the type of tone you are looking for and it has plenty of options available with various models. It might not be what you want but that doesn’t mean it is limited or should be dismissed.

I’m beginning to notice a lot of generalizations, mood swings and just really being all over the place… Ecstatic one day and pissed the next.

If the sky were the limit and you were having a good day, what amp or tones would make you content? I don’t recall if you own one but I think a Fractal might be something that could offer up something different almost daily.

I experiment with different gear because it inspires creativity for me. I’ve gotten a lot better about just chasing gear because I’m unhappy with my tone and find fault with a lot of gear. I’ve played long enough to usually get pretty good tones out of just about everything I play and I do believe much of that comes from the hands and fingers… particularly the right hand. But it’s also in the mind. In my case much more than I realized in my early years.

Tell us about your dream amp!

 

[EOengineer]

I hate to weigh in here uninvited with a somewhat negative view but here I go anyway. I am not a fan at all of the Celestion G30H Anni drivers in the 1x12 or 2x12 EVH Cabs. But I do like the cabs themselves quite a bit. I bought mine back when they were priced nicely and swapped out the drivers for speakers that met my finally needs a lot better. Sold the stock speakers as practically new which offset the cost quite a bit. Ended up with cabs loaded with drivers of my choice quite reasonably priced. It really worked out well for me in the end. I say go for it directly and get what truly makes you happy JT. As an aside, some years ago I just burned through all of the likely candidates until I found what really suited me. It wasn’t cheap and I did have help from a cool guy out of Cedar Park, Tx who had worked for Celestion for quite a few years and, along with some great stories, he and I discussed what I was looking for (he had noticed my Craigslist ads as I burned through various speakers). His advice and input helped a lot. Now I no longer worry about it. It’s a settled matter in my mind and I’m happy.

IR’s based on that experience also suit me well which has simplified things quite a bit on the digital side as well.

Best of luck @JiveTurkey !

Totally anecdotal, but you must be the dozenth person I've seen express negative sentiment about the EVH cabs along with the caveat that they sound much better when you replace the stock speakers. They may have hedged their bets in the wrong direction on their factory speaker choice.

 

[KingsXJJ]

Totally anecdotal, but you must be the dozenth person I've seen express negative sentiment about the EVH cabs along with the caveat that they sound much better when you replace the stock speakers. They may have hedged their bets in the wrong direction on their factory speaker choice.

I think their selection (likely to save $$ IMO but I don’t know for sure) was not the best. I find it telling that the 4x12 cab sticks with the EVH-GG (heritage 20w). From what I know about Eddie, that would have been his first affordable choice and perhaps he was convinced to compromise on the smaller units. Pure speculation though. Perhaps it had to do with power handling in some way too. I would have kept the 4x12’s as they are and put a CB65 in the smaller ones or have liked for Celestion to design an EVH-CB with 50-65 watt handling. Ideally, I’d really love to see a hybrid CB with the low end and thump of the CB-75’s with the sweet midrange and high end as the EVH-GB. Get them to handle 50w+ each and bam. Maybe the 50w Lynch model delivered this but they were out of production while I was playing Dexter in the lab again back when.

 

[EOengineer]

I was enamored with the high gain compression the first couple days, but now I'm completely bored with it.

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