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Reading all this makes me wonder whether I'm actually living on the same planet. I mean, not to put any of you US folks off, but the USA aren't exactly wellknown for being all progressive and what not (at least not when it comes to such things). But then, here we are in good old Germany, up to this day owning even rather small amounts of weed is still forbidden and in some parts of Germany (Bavaria... *yuck*) they can still get you jailed.
It's just a few days ago that the plans for new laws were presented officially - but it's still going to take some months for them to be effective. And it's not as if those new laws were all great and what not. You are now allowed to grow 3 plants for your own consume. Uh, ok - what if all three of them are male? And you're also allowed to only carry 25 grams at any one time. So, what if I just harvested 250g of some plants in my garden and want to take them home? 10 bike rides? WTF? Also, those 25g don't say anything about the quality. So it could as well be that you're just carrying the rest of the plant after harvesting (leaves and branches) to dispose them and get arrested because it's more than 25g - sure, that's not gonna happen, but it goes to show just *how* absurd things are over here.
And then there's still plenty of politicians claiming that marihuana would be *the* entry level drug for each and every person to get into harder stuff (such as heroine and what not), which has been proven utter nonsense multiple times.
At the same time, people over here are allowed to purchase pretty cheap hard alcohol (by now, hard alcohol is almost cheaper than anywhere else in the EU, maybe with the exception of Poland, Hungary and some other former east countries) and you can consume it anywhere without any restrictions, too.
It's pathetic, really.
 
Sascha Franck said:
Reading all this makes me wonder whether I'm actually living on the same planet. I mean, not to put any of you US folks off, but the USA aren't exactly wellknown for being all progressive and what not (at least not when it comes to such things). But then, here we are in good old Germany, up to this day owning even rather small amounts of weed is still forbidden and in some parts of Germany (Bavaria... *yuck*) they can still get you jailed.
It's just a few days ago that the plans for new laws were presented officially - but it's still going to take some months for them to be effective. And it's not as if those new laws were all great and what not. You are now allowed to grow 3 plants for your own consume. Uh, ok - what if all three of them are male? And you're also allowed to only carry 25 grams at any one time. So, what if I just harvested 250g of some plants in my garden and want to take them home? 10 bike rides? WTF? Also, those 25g don't say anything about the quality. So it could as well be that you're just carrying the rest of the plant after harvesting (leaves and branches) to dispose them and get arrested because it's more than 25g - sure, that's not gonna happen, but it goes to show just *how* absurd things are over here.
And then there's still plenty of politicians claiming that marihuana would be *the* entry level drug for each and every person to get into harder stuff (such as heroine and what not), which has been proven utter nonsense multiple times.
At the same time, people over here are allowed to purchase pretty cheap hard alcohol (by now, hard alcohol is almost cheaper than anywhere else in the EU, maybe with the exception of Poland, Hungary and some other former east countries) and you can consume it anywhere without any restrictions, too.
It's pathetic, really.
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Over here we had police chiefs coming out before the laws went in effect stating how they were going to handle things, not all, but some. Most of the time it turned into “We’re just not going to pay attention to weed anymore” and the only time people get questioned about it is if they’re caught driving while smoking or if they’ve got an absurd amount on them. I remember when Massachusetts decriminalized it there were a few chiefs who were happy about it, they’ve got a crazy opioid issue up there and the cops saw it as “Good, we can stop paying attention to the little stuff and focus on the stuff that’s actually killing people”

Hahaha and some took the “What’s the point in ticketing people over it? A $25 infraction where they don’t even need to present an ID? I’m not going to have my force waste their time on that”
 
Sascha Franck said:
Reading all this makes me wonder whether I'm actually living on the same planet. I mean, not to put any of you US folks off, but the USA aren't exactly wellknown for being all progressive and what not (at least not when it comes to such things). But then, here we are in good old Germany, up to this day owning even rather small amounts of weed is still forbidden and in some parts of Germany (Bavaria... *yuck*) they can still get you jailed.
It's just a few days ago that the plans for new laws were presented officially - but it's still going to take some months for them to be effective. And it's not as if those new laws were all great and what not. You are now allowed to grow 3 plants for your own consume. Uh, ok - what if all three of them are male? And you're also allowed to only carry 25 grams at any one time. So, what if I just harvested 250g of some plants in my garden and want to take them home? 10 bike rides? WTF? Also, those 25g don't say anything about the quality. So it could as well be that you're just carrying the rest of the plant after harvesting (leaves and branches) to dispose them and get arrested because it's more than 25g - sure, that's not gonna happen, but it goes to show just *how* absurd things are over here.
And then there's still plenty of politicians claiming that marihuana would be *the* entry level drug for each and every person to get into harder stuff (such as heroine and what not), which has been proven utter nonsense multiple times.
At the same time, people over here are allowed to purchase pretty cheap hard alcohol (by now, hard alcohol is almost cheaper than anywhere else in the EU, maybe with the exception of Poland, Hungary and some other former east countries) and you can consume it anywhere without any restrictions, too.
It's pathetic, really.
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yea i dont want to get into politics but i am sure our country can look very backwards on numerous issues from the outside these days. but i think on pot legalization it really just comes down to the money or they never would have done it. and it still certainly varies by area. some states have rejected recreational legalization when it was on the ballot so its not like we all agree on it yet.
 
Although cannabis is truly one of the hardiest plants on this planet, growing good bud is not really just about put it in the ground and come back in 5 months. Ninety percent of the potency of the plant is going to come from the strain, so that is not controlled by the grower. The issue is getting a good tasting and quantity from your harvest, and that is not a drop it in the soil and fuhget about it IME ;~))

Both indoors and outdoors can take a LOT of time and each has their advantages/disadvantages. Indoors, you control the environment. This means lighting, nutrients, protection from elements (weather, predators, thieves, law enforcement) are all under your control and if done right can produce higher yields and better tasting final product. On the down side, you have added costs and maintenance to control mold, the watering, nutrients, etc. Outdoors, you have to deal with weather, predators, thieves, law enforcement, etc. to a much higher degree. In the area I live, we have very high humidity so it is difficult to grow many indica varieties outdoors due to the general thickness of the buds. The problem there is, when it rains (great plants are watered, I am good - NOT), the water can get trapped inside those thick buds and not fully evaporate, giving mold the moisture it needs to grow. I have seen several outdoor grows (not mine but others who did not understand this issue) yield zero smokeable content due to mold issues like this. Most sativa's have a much tighter bud structure and smaller and thinner buds which helps to alleviate this issue. Many sativa strains are more naturally mold resistant as well. Then of course there is the whole trimming and curing processes which can also significantly affect your outputs quality.

Anyway, it does grow very easily, but that does not mean getting the output you are looking for is also easy. Indoors and outdoors have their challenges as do the curing and trimming processes ;~)) As said however, at this point it is a huge time drain considering the market prices IMO! Happy 4/20 everyone (already 4/20 in Japan as I write this)!!!
 
Sascha Franck said:
Reading all this makes me wonder whether I'm actually living on the same planet. I mean, not to put any of you US folks off, but the USA aren't exactly wellknown for being all progressive and what not (at least not when it comes to such things). But then, here we are in good old Germany, up to this day owning even rather small amounts of weed is still forbidden and in some parts of Germany (Bavaria... *yuck*) they can still get you jailed.
It's just a few days ago that the plans for new laws were presented officially - but it's still going to take some months for them to be effective. And it's not as if those new laws were all great and what not. You are now allowed to grow 3 plants for your own consume. Uh, ok - what if all three of them are male? And you're also allowed to only carry 25 grams at any one time. So, what if I just harvested 250g of some plants in my garden and want to take them home? 10 bike rides? WTF? Also, those 25g don't say anything about the quality. So it could as well be that you're just carrying the rest of the plant after harvesting (leaves and branches) to dispose them and get arrested because it's more than 25g - sure, that's not gonna happen, but it goes to show just *how* absurd things are over here.
And then there's still plenty of politicians claiming that marihuana would be *the* entry level drug for each and every person to get into harder stuff (such as heroine and what not), which has been proven utter nonsense multiple times.
At the same time, people over here are allowed to purchase pretty cheap hard alcohol (by now, hard alcohol is almost cheaper than anywhere else in the EU, maybe with the exception of Poland, Hungary and some other former east countries) and you can consume it anywhere without any restrictions, too.
It's pathetic, really.
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Many State Constitutions allow for voter driven referendums. So you go and have
people sign a petition to have an initiative put on the ballot. Gather enough signatures
and if they are deemed legal and valid (signed by actual registered voters) then you
can get that initiative on the ballot. Once on the ballot it is up to the citizens of that State
to approve the measure.

The cool thing is once people vote it into law, then the legislatures cannot overturn those voter referendums.
They become locked by that State's Constitution.

As much flack as we see about the "death of democracy" these kinds of initiatives are democracies
in action at their best. Grassroots. Ground up. Voter empowerment.

People can say it is all about the money. Maybe now it is. But at the time the initiatives were passed
it was about Average Janes and Joes voting freely to enact those laws and make marijuana legal,
with the restrictions and regulations that were also a part of the ballot initiative.
 
4/20 pre sale = Sour Blueberry, Gorilla Zkittlez, Tahiti Lime, Grapefruit Durban, and Casey Jones.

It's insane how much supply there is here. You walk in and they throw free weed at you, and then
when you leave they throw some more free weed at you. Like getting married only the rice is pot! :love
 
Sascha Franck said:
So, how much do you folks usually pay per gram? Like for some averagely strong strain?
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I buy ounces for like 70 or 80 bucks, saw 4/20 specials for 49. I don't think I've ever bought a gram, eighths are like 15 or 20 maybe 25 for top tier. The bottom is literally falling out of the market right now. I remember paying 300 to 350 for ounces back in the day.

I also buy grams of really good kief for 10 bucks which turns pretty good flower into loud.

Here's a couple places right by my house

Lansing Order Online – LIV Cannabis

livcannabis.com livcannabis.com

SHOP AMERICAN ROAD | Bazonzoes

Shop products and deals at American Road! This easily accessible location (right off the freeway) features a drive thru and every day rock bottom prices. Think of it as the OG dispensary outlet of your dreams!
www.bazonzoesmi.com www.bazonzoesmi.com
 
sleewell said:
I buy ounces for like 70 or 80 bucks, saw 4/20 specials for 49.
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Wtf? That's pretty much dirt cheap, kinda like €2-3 per gram. Even in, say, the Netherlands, basically *the* western countries' role model for cannabis legalization, it's still something between €5-15 per gram. And I'd expect it to be more in Germany, once the laws are adjusted.
For the money you're paying, growing your own isn't worth the effort indeed, unless you're making a hobby out of it.
 
Gddaaaaaammmn, it’s still around $150-$200 on oz down here. Which still isn’t bad, considering 4 years ago the best you were going to get an oz for was $350 and that’s if you knew someone really well, if not, $400-$450.
 
I picked up a 1/4 of Purple Kush and a 1/4 of Wedding Cake, both indica strains and both hit you like a ton of bricks!!! 👍🏻
Smoke Weed GIF by Trevor Moore
 
I used to smoke insanely immense amounts constantly. I still have a few tokes on a daily basis but not like I used to :rofl

Obviously been legal here in CO for quite some time. Even before legalization it was just an $80 ticket if you got caught with less than 2oz

FAKA! said:
It should be legal here in Hawaii... still waiting on the legalization of LSD. :clint
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One day maybe… we recently decriminalized shrooms/mescaline/DMT here in Colorado
 
Here is my 4/20 contribution! Last night (April 19, 2023) I wrote a new song in honor of the magical 4/20 day (was not planned)!! Got a hair up my but that I should try and release it today on April 20, 2023. Did not make it quite that far, but I did make it to what I thought was an acceptable demo version (full release will be next year just shy of 4/20 and that version will be much better)!! Rock on Vipers!!!

Page with lyrics and artwork:
https://moondogwily.com/happy4score/


Mp3 direct link:
https://moondogwily.com/happy4score/Happy4Score_2023Apr20_Demo.mp3

Final artwork for DEMO:
Happy4Score_2023Mar20_v002_1200x1200.jpg
 
la szum said:
We had Band Practice last night. It was fun. Perfect timing. :beer
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We used to go pretty crazy with 4/20 parties for band practices. We used to have gravity bongs made from 5 gallon buckets and 3-liter soda bottles with the bottoms cut off; two lined up side by side and whoever could clear the bottle was the winner, though the prize was almost always coughing for 20 minutes then passing the f*ck out at minute 22. :rofl

Or who could keep the gas mask on for the duration of one song after taking a bong rip with it. That was a really good one because you couldn’t see sh*t until you inhaled enough of it.
 
Holy crap!!! I gotta unsub from these dispensaries 😂 Extended 420 celebrations all over the place!!! One place has ounces for $125 which is priced very aggressively even though it’s prepackaged. I’m probably gonna cave and get one to have on hand to carry me for a while…
Chris Tucker Smoking GIF
 
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