The main reason modellers don’t work for me live (not a rant)

[Digital Igloo]

In the context of this guys post, that’s kinda like saying “the wind in your hair isn’t the fault of the convertible, it’s your choice to drive it with the top down”. As he says, sure he could use a power amp and cab…but at that point, why not just use the amp he usually gigs with?

Here's one of perhaps many reasons: Because that gives you one preamp sound with no easy way to instantly recall different sounds for different songs (or different sections of songs). That's kinda like asking "Why use a convertible with the top down when you can just walk?"

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

No, Eric was just pointing out that modeling isn’t where most people get hung up, it’s making the adjustment to hearing IRs through a full range system that throws off people who are used to traditional rigs. A tube amp running into a load box and then through IRs and a full range system will yield the same results as running a modeler through the same IRs into that same system.

context of the post:

“I got a convertible to drive with the top down. And then I remembered I hate the feeling of wind in my hair”

(dude went back to modeling specifically for silent stage; remembered he struggles playing that way; noted he could fix it by hauling a long an amp/cab; noted that put him into “why not just use my amp category?”)

So yes, the guys problem was monitor, not modeler. He admitted it. But fixing that negates his entire purpose for bothering with a modeler.

 

[Frodebro]

context of the post:

“I got a convertible to drive with the top down. And then I remembered I hate the feeling of wind in my hair”

(dude went back to modeling specifically for silent stage; remembered he struggles playing that way; noted he could fix it by hauling a long an amp/cab; noted that put him into “why not just use my amp category?”)

So yes, the guys problem was monitor, not modeler. He admitted it. But fixing that negates his entire purpose for bothering with a modeler.

Fixing it would also not work for a silent stage scenario, either.

Oh, the humanity…

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

Fixing it would also not work for a silent stage scenario, either.

Oh, the humanity…

Correct!!!!

 

[fiftyshadesofslay]

Yes I’m well versed in knowing a direct signal replicates a mic’d amp. That’s not the issue. It’s the fact that you don’t get any feedback from a speaker on stage when running purely direct.

 

[fiftyshadesofslay]

And I’m not really looking for a solution, as that just involves bringing an amp of some description. It was more an observation on why it didn’t work for me.

 

[mikah912]

And I’m not really looking for a solution, as that just involves bringing an amp of some description. It was more an observation on why it didn’t work for me.

But was it "modellers" not working for you or was it a silent stage not working for you?

Put another way, if modellers never existed and you had to use a tube amp into a load box heard only via IEMs, would any part of this thread be different?

I think it's just your thread title throwing people.