The Digital Doubt

[mercifulfuzziness]

I'd suggest building a basic and classic rig. For example, a TS808 into a JCM800, an appropriate IR that you know you already like, and a bit of room reverb mixed at 10% or so. Once you've built that, spend some time with it and see what you can get out of it.

Thanks man, I am more into the fender amps. So I should get a TS to work but it just never gets the sound. But tone is in the fingers. It’s not the gear.

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

It seems like the sayce + killer sound engineer will be a way sicker result than I would ever get out of my helix. And that’s no diss to helix.

Sayce + my 13 year old that has never used a plugin, hates guitar, and loud noises in general, will be infinitely sicker than you. Get over it.

You don’t like the hiss of gain? It’s way worse with actual pedals and amps and harder to gate out.

 

[paisleywookiee]

It seems like the sayce + killer sound engineer will be a way sicker result than I would ever get out of my helix. And that’s no diss to helix.

As absolutely amazing as Sayce is, and I’m sure the engineer knows what he’s doing, I think you’re overselling the skill required in getting a great tone.

 

[Sascha Franck]

It seems like the sayce + killer sound engineer will be a way sicker result than I would ever get out of my helix.

So what? Very little folks on this forum could say they'd be able to match that performance.

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

As absolutely amazing as Sayce is, and I’m sure the engineer knows what he’s doing, I think you’re overselling the skill required in getting a great tone.

And overselling the importance of tone in general.

 

[Sascha Franck]

And fwiw, the tones in the Sayce video are too harsh for my taste, just listened to it again with headphones and it's been quite an earpiercing experience.

 

[paisleywookiee]

And fwiw, the tones in the Sayce video are too harsh for my taste, just listened to it again with headphones and it's been quite an earpiercing experience.

Yeah, wouldn't be my go-to either, but Sayce makes it work, and his playing is the more interesting factor of the video.

 

[mercifulfuzziness]

After 13 pages of reading I decided to trust you guys and then 'trust my ears' and try a take on making a cab.

With the Super Reverb, I have the 4x12 Greenback 20. That just shows what a cork sniffer I would be outside of the digital realm. A cab with a pricetag of 3000.. damn From Googling afterwards, it's a Marshall 4x12 basketwave.

I don't know what the F i'm doing but listening to the mic placement uncle larry video, i came to this.

 

[paisleywookiee]

After 13 pages of reading I decided to trust you guys and then 'trust my ears' and try a take on making a cab.

With the Super Reverb, I have the 4x12 Greenback 20. That just shows what a cork sniffer I would be outside of the digital realm. A cab with a pricetag of 3000.. damn From Googling afterwards, it's a Marshall 4x12 basketwave.

I don't know what the F i'm doing but listening to the mic placement uncle larry video, i came to this.

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I'd bring your high cut to 8 or 9Khz, and then perhaps come up a little higher on your low cut, depending on how boomy your tone is (and your preference, of course).

 

[Sascha Franck]

I'd bring your high cut to 8 or 9Khz

Shouldn't be required with that cab, it's rather dark by default already.

 

[mercifulfuzziness]

I'd bring your high cut to 8 or 9Khz, and then perhaps come up a little higher on your low cut, depending on how boomy your tone is (and your preference, of course).

Thanks!

 

[mercifulfuzziness]

Shouldn't be required with that cab, it's rather dark by default already.

I liked it better with low cut and high cut off

 

[paisleywookiee]

I liked it better with low cut and high cut off

There’s your answer then. And I agree with Sascha, that particular cab probably doesn’t need much of a high cut.

 

[the swede]

Mate sent me this. It is all I have to contribute.

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That’s just awesome! Volvo machines rules!!! It’s actually kinda normal to do school trips to visit Volvo factories here in Sweden… back in the 80-90’s…
maybe not now….
I don’t know…
Ok… something cool just became… pffft

Sorry… I’ll see myself out.

 

[mercifulfuzziness]

That’s just awesome! Volvo machines rules!!! It’s actually kinda normal to do school trips to visit Volvo factories here in Sweden… back in the 80-90’s…
maybe not now….
I don’t know…
Ok… something cool just became… pffft

Sorry… I’ll see myself out.

I pick a new v60 any day over an BMW 3 series or Audi A4.

V90 is also cooler than BMW 5 and Audi A6 but becomes more debatable for me ;-)

Thank you for your cars

 

[[Nathan]]

The Sayce vid reminds me of this... If you saw him play through a peavey bandit for 15mins you'd be ok with paying the stores RRP.
World class muso's will sound great on anything and will also shine on well dialled in gear.

 

[MadMaxG79]

That’s just awesome! Volvo machines rules!!! It’s actually kinda normal to do school trips to visit Volvo factories here in Sweden… back in the 80-90’s…
maybe not now….
I don’t know…
Ok… something cool just became… pffft

Sorry… I’ll see myself out.

There's a surprise: A Swede rambling about how great Volvo is... Next up: The story about how the end of Saab is the greatest loss to the automobile industry in the history of mankind...

(And yes: I'm a bitter Dane who's just jealous that we as a nation haven't left a lasting mark on the industry. Apart from Henrik Fisker, who's best known for going bankrupt with every endeavor...)

The Sayce vid reminds me of this... If you saw him play through a peavey bandit for 15mins you'd be ok with paying the stores RRP.
World class muso's will sound great on anything and will also shine on well dialled in gear.

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And all I can think about for the rest of the day is "Well I heard about the fella you been dancing with - all over the neighborhood..."

 

[Sascha Franck]

I'm a bitter Dane who's just jealous that we as a nation haven't left a lasting mark on the industry.

Dude! Hot Dogs!
And maybe Lego. But digesting it is not as easy.

 

[SillyOctpuss]

 

[MadMaxG79]

Dude! Hot Dogs!
And maybe Lego. But digesting it is not as easy.

True. But I was referring to automotive industry specifically, not Danish innovation in general. Otherwise, @the swede will just throw the all-ending argument that is Ikea.

Funny anecdote which will only serve to derail this thread even further: Just yesterday my 10 year old daughter asked me what they call French Hot Dogs in France. To which I had to admit that the French Hot Dog is actually a very Danish thing and that I don't think the French would ever stoop so gastronomically low as to ever ingest one. And that the name was most likely derived from the fact that the sausage is stuck into a bread that resembles half a baguette. This was very confusing to her