Stick with Mac or move to Windows?

I've been on Mac since 2007, for music, video, and photography. Not going back. I deal with Windows and Linux enough during the day. Windows 11 is fine, but I really detest all the shit they stuff into it.

Complaining about upgrades is fine, I guess. But my Mac Mini is unchanged since 2020, and still chews through 4K video without issue. When I buy a Mac, I just up the RAM a bit, get a 1TB SSD, and that's all.
 
i dunno, i used a 2011 i5 with 24 gigs of ram for a lotta work since then, and just upgraded to a xeon with 64 gigs of ram that was a cast off- total investment was $18 for two hdmi cables, and i used a known good firewire card, which was probably 50 bucks in 2011. im sure itll keep tickin. still nudgin my pro40s along, and presuming nothing burns up, im offline forever, and usb drive only imports and exports.

win 10 is fine- get your system stable, and stop updating. use another machine if you download plugins. its just regular maintenance. just yank yer damn network card or keep it off.

all i ever hear about is the 'apples are superior' until they shitt he bed and youre sunk for $4k worth of hardware thats a ticking timebomb. besidedly- unless your track count is outrageous, how much processing power do you REALLY need for music production? dont join the arms race, at some point its all bravado.

i vote windows for straight modularity and longevity, and just stay off the internet.
 
newholland said:
all i ever hear about is the 'apples are superior' until they shitt he bed and youre sunk for $4k worth of hardware thats a ticking timebomb.
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Not saying Apple is superior, but to say it’s a ticking time bomb is BS too. I’ve also never spent more than $2000 on a Mac.
 
newholland said:
until they yank your OS. then it is.
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Yeah? Interesting. Haven't had that problem in 15 years. I guess since I upgrade every 5-6 years, it's not an issue. And since resale value on Macs is far better than any windows machine, I do pretty well with that. Current OS support goes back to 2018, from what I can tell.
 
paisleywookiee said:
Not saying Apple is superior, but to say it’s a ticking time bomb is BS too. I’ve also never spent more than $2000 on a Mac.
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in all honesty, though- it is an overstatement if you dont feel the need for constant replacement of stuff that may not make any difference, just puts you on the treadmill of consumption.

nothing i said is gonna carry of youre renting plugins or having to stay current with pro trends, and if youre a full time audio pro, thats your lot. but if youre a full time recording pro, you amortize that shit and roll, and you dont ask here cause its a business. 😄 and theoretically makes money 😄
 
paisleywookiee said:
Yeah? Interesting. Haven't had that problem in 15 years. I guess since I upgrade every 5-6 years, it's not an issue. And since resale value on Macs is far better than any windows machine, I do pretty well with that. Current OS support goes back to 2018, from what I can tell.
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My 2015 MBP is still pretty current. And still functions perfectly.
 
newholland said:
in all honesty, though- it is an overstatement if you dont feel the need for constant replacement of stuff that may not make any difference, just puts you on the treadmill of consumption.

nothing i said is gonna carry of youre renting plugins or having to stay current with pro trends, and if youre a full time audio pro, thats your lot. but if youre a full time recording pro, you amortize that shit and roll, and you dont ask here cause its a business. 😄 and theoretically makes money 😄
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I'm not a full time recording pro. I do this for fun. I still get a new machine every 5-6 years, because I can easily sell the previous one for 50-60% of the price I paid.

I find it interesting that flipping amps, modelers, guitars, pedals, etc. is completely normal here, but flipping computers (which is WAY easier) is somehow weird/outlandish? If people are into swapping motherboards, power supplies, etc. cool, whatever. I did that too when I was 25. I've long since tired of that shit. Have fun. I'd rather just use the computer.
 
paisleywookiee said:
Yeah? Interesting. Haven't had that problem in 15 years. I guess since I upgrade every 5-6 years, it's not an issue. And since resale value on Macs is far better than any windows machine, I do pretty well with that. Current OS support goes back to 2018, from what I can tell.
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im def. not implying youre in any way wrong- but apple has dropped OS support. my last windows machine was by all accounts elderly and i updated from 7 pro just to get the 64bit OS on it. i literally retired it this weekend. 14 years on on box aint bad.

macs work awesome. i know a ton of dudes who run the wheels off of em and whatever works is great.. but when they pull ports off machines, and theyre a solid state machine that isnt configurable hardware wise.. aiii.. man, im a mechanic. if its broke, im gonna fix it, not replace it all. its like cars you cant touch the engine or they put the fuel filter in the tank. its kinda a bad faith maneuver for a hands on engineer. 'sorry guys- sessions over- port just broke and cant go to another one' just... no sir!
 
newholland said:
im def. not implying youre in any way wrong- but apple has dropped OS support. my last windows machine was by all accounts elderly and i updated from 7 pro just to get the 64bit OS on it. i literally retired it this weekend. 14 years on on box aint bad.
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Windows 7 hasn't been supported for over 7 years though. 10 is up this October. Meanwhile, a machine from 2018 (Mac Mini, anyway) is supported today. I fail to see the problem. Do they hold on to hardware as long as Windows machines? Probably not. Do they drop support after 5 years? No. Can you get half of what you paid out of a Windows machine after 5 years? No. You're getting a 1/4, if anything at all.
 
I've got an old i7 Macbook, Mac Mini, and a really friggin' old Macbook Pro that I don't even know what chip is in it, but it is shit. I should really just throw them all on eBay and see what I can get for them.

My M1 Pro Macbook is really really good. I tend to do all my video work and design work on that, because the screen is brilliant. I should really invest in a proper screen for my PC so I can have the same kind of experience.

Mac simply is not as performant using Blender as Windows with a dedicated GPU. I have a 4090, and my PC absolutely flies when doing 3D graphics. It obliterates Apple Silicon in a huge fuckin' way. Same thing for video.

Audio software wise... I just don't care anymore. I'll use either of them, often interchangeably, and often at the same time.
 
Orvillain said:
Mac simply is not as performant using Blender as Windows with a dedicated GPU. I have a 4090, and my PC absolutely flies when doing 3D graphics. It obliterates Apple Silicon in a huge fuckin' way. Same thing for video.
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You should always pick your software first, and build around that, than trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. Macs aren't great for Blender. Luckily, we're not on a Blender forum. :D

If people are gamers, Macs are dumb. If people love Logic/FCP, etc. obviously it's Mac.
 
paisleywookiee said:
You should always pick your software first, and build around that, than trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. Macs aren't great for Blender. Luckily, we're not on a Blender forum. :D

If people are gamers, Macs are dumb. If people love Logic/FCP, etc. obviously it's Mac.
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Apple Silicon is not great for high quality 3D renders full stop. The chips just aren't built for that. They're built for general processing. Not for dedicated 3D graphics.

All my software is cross platform for the most part, so I really don't give much of a shit.

Final Cut Pro is properly bowel. I own it. Have done since it launched. I prefer Da Vinci Resolve. Loooooooooaaaaaadddddssss of industry professionals abandoned Final Cut once Apple acquired it and completely raped the workflow. That's how Adobe got a huge foot in the market with Premiere. Before that, Premiere wasn't really a success in the way it is now.
 
Orvillain said:
Apple Silicon is not great for high quality 3D renders full stop. The chips just aren't built for that. They're built for general processing. Not for dedicated 3D graphics.

All my software is cross platform for the most part, so I really don't give much of a shit.

Final Cut Pro is properly bowel. I own it. Have done since it launched. I prefer Da Vinci Resolve. Loooooooooaaaaaadddddssss of industry professionals abandoned Final Cut once Apple acquired it and completely raped the workflow. That's how Adobe got a huge foot in the market with Premiere. Before that, Premiere wasn't really a success in the way it is now.
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I've been using FCP for over a decade, and prefer it to DaVinci. To each their own. I used it for editing videos for trade shows and such. I won't touch anything Adobe. Fuck that company.
 
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