Some interesting news from Kemper (Profiler Player)

[TubeStack]

Taboo around here but it sounds like you'd enjoy a QC

Definitely one of the coolest parts about the QC. I'm VERY happy with the captures I've made of my drive/boost pedals.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Definitely one of the coolest parts about the QC. I'm VERY happy with the captures I've made of my drive/boost pedals.

That's really one of the most tempting things with the QC for me. I have quite some pedals that are quite nice but still not worth allowing them to waste space on my pedalboard. Add to this that most of them are pretty much one trick ponies anyway, so a single capture would possibly do them justice.
But then, it's from NDSP - and if it wasn't for the company, my feet are rather large. Hence a double-no.

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

That's really one of the most tempting things with the QC for me. I have quite some pedals that are quite nice but still not worth allowing them to waste space on my pedalboard. Add to this that most of them are pretty much one trick ponies anyway, so a single capture would possibly do them justice.
But then, it's from NDSP - and if it wasn't for the company, my feet are rather large. Hence a double-no.

Pumuckl feet? :-)

 

[Orvillain]

Thing is, apart from the FAS offerings, regardless of the underlying modeling/capturing, the Kemper right now is the only platform allowing you to quickly chose between different gain/tone-stacks. That's something attracting me a whole lot - and I'm not even remotely interested in the added authenticity available through such maneuvers, I just like the additional tonal flexibility.

meh

As of today Jan 11 .... its the original / existing 1 x Generic Stack + 45 New Amp Channels [ 22 different Amps as best I can tell ] .... see attached list:-

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Ben

Pretty funny how most of it is Fender amps. There's loooooaaaadddss missing. Shame.

 

[Sascha Franck]

meh

There's nothing meh in being able to quickly swap gain/tone stacks at all, more to the opposite. I have a whole amount of patches with EQs inserted here and there. Flexible tonestacks would allow me to save big.
Ideally, there would even be a "freeform" tonestack, allowing you to route each band pre/post and also set the frequency and bandwidth. And maybe the interaction with the other bands. Yeah, I know, sort of like a parametric EQ, but I want that tonestack to be available as a part of the amp and only initially grab some parameters under the hood.

 

[Mongillo19]

Flexible tonestacks would allow me to save big.
Ideally, there would even be a "freeform" tonestack, allowing you to route each band pre/post and also set the frequency and bandwidth. A

Do you mean like this? Not being snarky, I've never messed with it but seems to be what you mean?

 

[JasonE]

Taboo around here but it sounds like you'd enjoy a QC

I already had Fractal and Kemper units when they came out so I never really looked into them much. I also read many posts about shortcoming with the unit. I am honestly not a big fan of a touchscreen on a floor unit either. Who knows, maybe some day when I get bored and am looking for something new to play with.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Do you mean like this? Not being snarky, I've never messed with it but seems to be what you mean?

Yeah, that'd be pretty much up my alley already.

 

[Orvillain]

There's nothing meh in being able to quickly swap gain/tone stacks at all, more to the opposite. I have a whole amount of patches with EQs inserted here and there. Flexible tonestacks would allow me to save big.
Ideally, there would even be a "freeform" tonestack, allowing you to route each band pre/post and also set the frequency and bandwidth. And maybe the interaction with the other bands. Yeah, I know, sort of like a parametric EQ, but I want that tonestack to be available as a part of the amp and only initially grab some parameters under the hood.

I'm not interested in that. I'm interested in 1:1 replications of real tube amps. Go on. Call me conservative or whatever, I don't give a shit.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Call me conservative or whatever

You're conservative or whatever.

 

[adam]

I'm not interested in that. I'm interested in 1:1 replications of real tube amps. Go on. Call me conservative or whatever, I don't give a shit.

Bloody Tory's.

 

[Orvillain]

You're conservative or whatever.

Silly fish!!!

 

[JCW308]

OK so I spent a couple of hours with a Player today. I just don't get this thing. Mine was buggy with the Android app to no end. I would save changes and then the changes would be half there and half gone. It's missing all my favorite reverbs. Particle. Gone. Ionosphere. Gone. There is no way to calibrate an expression pedal. The button is there but it does nothing. There's no morphing. There's no press and hold. It's noisy as an old BOSS from the 80's. In every outlet with every guitar. I mean this thing, the way it is now, even with the latest firmware, is a nightmare. An expensive one at that.

 

[Mongillo19]

OK so I spent a couple of hours with a Player today. I just don't get this thing. Mine was buggy with the Android app to no end. I would save changes and then the changes would be half there and half gone. It's missing all my favorite reverbs. Particle. Gone. Ionosphere. Gone. There is no way to calibrate an expression pedal. The button is there but it does nothing. There's no morphing. There's no press and hold. It's noisy as an old BOSS from the 80's. In every outlet with every guitar. I mean this thing, the way it is now, even with the latest firmware, is a nightmare. An expensive one at that.

Back it goes!

Maybe you got a faulty one? Or maybe those fixes will be part of the paid package

 

[BenIfin]

OK so I spent a couple of hours with a Player today. I just don't get this thing. Mine was buggy with the Android app to no end. I would save changes and then the changes would be half there and half gone. It's missing all my favorite reverbs. Particle. Gone. Ionosphere. Gone. There is no way to calibrate an expression pedal. The button is there but it does nothing. There's no morphing. There's no press and hold. It's noisy as an old BOSS from the 80's. In every outlet with every guitar. I mean this thing, the way it is now, even with the latest firmware, is a nightmare. An expensive one at that.

Back it goes!

Maybe you got a faulty one? Or maybe those fixes will be part of the paid package

As is well know here ... I make no secret of loving my KPA Stage with LP's ..... it has now been nearly 6 months since I ditched all my Fractals, Helix's, GT1000, Tonex etc.... all sold and gone ..... for the KPA Stage and LP's - BUT -

The Kemper Player is just bizarre to me - I just cant get my small brain around the "de-featuring" decisions they made.

Its not really a Kemper Player ..... its a *very highly cut down* Kemper Player.

Of the top of my head

=> Deep Amp controls ... gone
=> Cab Controls ... other than Pure Cab .... all gone
=> 2 x Pre EFX with extremely limited choices
=> 2 x Post EFX with extremely limited choices
=> no display of any kind to see what is going on
=> to import Rigs from your "full" KPA .. you lose your 3rd and 4th Pre EFX and your 3rd and 4th Post EFX -and also- you will almost certainly have to change the EFX in the 2 x pre and 2 x post slots to find what's available in the Player to "best match" what your full pre-set normally uses
=> I have no idea about build and s/w and h/w reliability as I've never used one - and never will
=> price is relatively stupid-high

I'm a massive KPA and LP fan ...... I am a massive fan of C.K ....... but this KPA Player really is a w.t.a.f product as I see it.

For people who have never had or used a KPA .... maybe (?) ..... but if you have a full KPA .... I can only see this unit getting very frustrating and annoying very, very quickly

That all.

Ben

 

[Orvillain]

It's noisy as an old BOSS from the 80's. In every outlet with every guitar.

I had the same experience with the Kemper Stage. It had this awful inherent buzz to it, that only went away if I had a buffered pedal in front of the unit. I tried three stages and they all did the same thing!!

 

[BenIfin]

I had the same experience with the Kemper Stage. It had this awful inherent buzz to it, that only went away if I had a buffered pedal in front of the unit. I tried three stages and they all did the same thing!!

Sh%t ... thats some serious bad luck or a bad batch or both !

 

[Sascha Franck]

OK so I spent a couple of hours with a Player today. I just don't get this thing. Mine was buggy with the Android app to no end. I would save changes and then the changes would be half there and half gone. It's missing all my favorite reverbs. Particle. Gone. Ionosphere. Gone. There is no way to calibrate an expression pedal. The button is there but it does nothing. There's no morphing. There's no press and hold. It's noisy as an old BOSS from the 80's. In every outlet with every guitar. I mean this thing, the way it is now, even with the latest firmware, is a nightmare. An expensive one at that.

Thanks. One thing less to lust for as it seems.

 

[Orvillain]

Sh%t ... thats some serious bad luck or a bad batch or both !

Well when I was a beta tester and I talked about it in the private beta area, people just kept talking to me like I was some sort of fucking idiot who didn't know what he was doing, and the Kemper people themselves had nothing to say.

It was quite a while after launching the product as well, so I don't think it was an early batch issue. I think the Stage has some sort of grounding or impedance problems that nobody is talking about.

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

Thanks. One thing less to lust for as it seems.

Once…once i let online “word of mouth” make order something sight unseen.

I still order stuff sight unseen but i be damned if i listen to others opinions or what seems to have become fashionable bad experienced.
Jus’ sayin’

I mean look at the reception the TC2290 pedal got…love it.