Some interesting news from Kemper (Profiler Player)

Ed DeGenaro said:
That’s my point.
And why i ordered a Kemper cause im just too damn curious.
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Hey Ed !

Will be really keen to hear what you think of (a) tweaking a LP vs tweaking a Generic Profile and (b) if you have any Amps on Kemper's current list of 45 new Models, how tweaking the resulting LP compares to the same tweaks on the real Amp ! :)

(a) is what sold me when I first tried LP's

Ben
 
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BenIfin said:
Hey Ed !

Will be really keen to hear what you think of (a) tweaking a LP vs tweaking a Generic Profile and (b) if you have any Amps on Kemper's current list of 44 Models, how tweaking the resulting LP compares to the same tweaks on the real Amp ! :)

(a) is what sold me when I first tried LP's

Ben
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I dunno what’s the list like as of now
 
Ed DeGenaro said:
I dunno what’s the list like as of now
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As of today Jan 11 .... its the original / existing 1 x Generic Stack + 45 New Amp Channels [ 22 different Amps as best I can tell ] .... see attached list:-

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Ben
 
adam said:
I'd love to see some boogies added to that list - iic+, IV etc.
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Although small by comparison ... this initial batch of 45 + Generic ... is really well chosen as i.m.h.o ... it will cover all the bases for the vast majority of players.

My *guess* is that the next "batch" of Amp Models added will include some more-common-boutiqueý stuff ..... Matchless (?) Trainwreck (?) Dumble (?) etc... just a guess though.

Sedaxel said:
Some MeBo Marks missing there, aren´t they? They´d better increase the list to keep pushing...
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The " Me-Bo's " are there ... 2 of them ... but they are the Dual Recto Orange and Dual Recto Red.

Ben
 
My guess was they filtered the free preset list in Rig manager, looked for the top 20-30 most commonly profiled amps, looked at what would be simpler to implement, and went from there.

Rectos are quite different to marks though in terms of tonestack - you've got the pre VS post gain EQ placement for a start. I guess there is also the graphic to consider - would kemper model the graphic EQ and expect you to create an LP with graphic off, or expect you to include the graphic as it doesn't impact the tonestack interactions? Etc.
 
BenIfin said:
Although small by comparison ... this initial batch of 45 + Generic ... is really well chosen as i.m.h.o ... it will cover all the bases for the vast majority of players.

My *guess* is that the next "batch" of Amp Models added will include some more-common-boutiqueý stuff ..... Matchless (?) Trainwreck (?) Dumble (?) etc... just a guess though.



The " Me-Bo's " are there ... 2 of them ... but they are the Dual Recto Orange and Dual Recto Red.

Ben
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Yeah, I was talking about MeBo´s Mark series, as adam also pointed out.
 
adam said:
My guess was they filtered the free preset list in Rig manager, looked for the top 20-30 most commonly profiled amps, looked at what would be simpler to implement, and went from there.

Rectos are quite different to marks though in terms of tonestack - you've got the pre VS post gain EQ placement for a start. I guess there is also the graphic to consider - would kemper model the graphic EQ and expect you to create an LP with graphic off, or expect you to include the graphic as it doesn't impact the tonestack interactions? Etc.
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Sedaxel said:
Yeah, I was talking about MeBo´s Mark series, as adam also pointed out.
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Again ...I'm just *guessing* here.

From KPA's perspective I would think the debate would be along the lines of .... there are 15 - 20 sub-revisions of Mark Series Amps .... [b.t.w ... I ran a purple strip Mark 3 for many years] ...... and then there are multiple channels in each .... and then there is the thorny-"truth"-topic of how popular and commonly used are Mark Series Amps for Players in 2024 (?) ... lots of Doctors and Dentists for sure at home ..... :) ..... but I've seen a fu%k-ton of bands and shows, locally and international .... played a bit too.... and apart from me several years ago .... I cant name one player that used a Mark series amp .... at any level ..... but I'm not into metal.

I would think / suggest the Mark series Amps is a very niche market (?) in the Tube amp world these days ..... but just my opinion :) ... in the metal world ... I have no idea.

Also, i.m.h.o ..... I'm pretty certain KPA aren't going to do or want to be a Fractal on this. They will - and CK has made it clear - release more "amp channels" ..... but I cant imagine them expending time on a Mark model when they are nowadays almost "invisible on the ground" :( (?) ...... and there are so many other popular boutiqueý amps to pick from (?)

And again ...... probably for %95 of players ..... %95 of the time ... the current existing list of 45 Channels / 22 amps ... probably covers %95 of everything wanted (?)

Having said all this ... no doubt the next LP Amp Channel additions will probably include a Mark series :)

Just my 2c worth.

All the best,
Ben
 
BenIfin said:
Again ...I'm just *guessing* here.

From KPA's perspective I would think the debate would be along the lines of .... there are 15 - 20 sub-revisions of Mark Series Amps .... [b.t.w ... I ran a purple strip Mark 3 for many years] ...... and then there are multiple channels in each .... and then there is the thorny-"truth"-topic of how popular and commonly used are Mark Series Amps for Players in 2024 (?) ... lots of Doctors and Dentists for sure at home ..... :) ..... but I've seen a fu%k-ton of bands and shows, locally and international .... played a bit too.... and apart from me several years ago .... I cant name one player that used a Mark series amp .... at any level ..... but I'm not into metal.

I would think / suggest the Mark series Amps is a very niche market (?) in the Tube amp world these days ..... but just my opinion :) ... in the metal world ... I have no idea.

Also, i.m.h.o ..... I'm pretty certain KPA aren't going to do or want to be a Fractal on this. They will - and CK has made it clear - release more "amp channels" ..... but I cant imagine them expending time on a Mark model when they are nowadays almost "invisible on the ground" :( (?) ...... and there are so many other popular boutiqueý amps to pick from (?)

And again ...... probably for %95 of players ..... %95 of the time ... the current existing list of 45 Channels / 22 amps ... probably covers %95 of everything wanted (?)

Having said all this ... no doubt the next LP Amp Channel additions will probably include a Mark series :)

Just my 2c worth.

All the best,
Ben
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No. Mark is life.
 
BenIfin said:
Again ...I'm just *guessing* here.

From KPA's perspective I would think the debate would be along the lines of .... there are 15 - 20 sub-revisions of Mark Series Amps .... [b.t.w ... I ran a purple strip Mark 3 for many years] ...... and then there are multiple channels in each .... and then there is the thorny-"truth"-topic of how popular and commonly used are Mark Series Amps for Players in 2024 (?) ... lots of Doctors and Dentists for sure at home ..... :) ..... but I've seen a fu%k-ton of bands and shows, locally and international .... played a bit too.... and apart from me several years ago .... I cant name one player that used a Mark series amp .... at any level ..... but I'm not into metal.

I would think / suggest the Mark series Amps is a very niche market (?) in the Tube amp world these days ..... but just my opinion :) ... in the metal world ... I have no idea.

Also, i.m.h.o ..... I'm pretty certain KPA aren't going to do or want to be a Fractal on this. They will - and CK has made it clear - release more "amp channels" ..... but I cant imagine them expending time on a Mark model when they are nowadays almost "invisible on the ground" :( (?) ...... and there are so many other popular boutiqueý amps to pick from (?)

And again ...... probably for %95 of players ..... %95 of the time ... the current existing list of 45 Channels / 22 amps ... probably covers %95 of everything wanted (?)

Having said all this ... no doubt the next LP Amp Channel additions will probably include a Mark series :)

Just my 2c worth.

All the best,
Ben
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Mesa Mark series being a niche market? Well, I don't have statistics, but I think the Mark IIc+ is one of the most sought after amps out there.

Regarding players using marks... I usually don't go looking what players use (even when I'm interested). But Petrucci was a mark user (he even has a signature one). I'm sure there'll be many, many more. Mark series are not necessarily metal amps. They are quite versatile, actually.

But hey, maybe I'm wrong, sure.
 
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eggpl@nt said:
Yeah, that’s the most likely outcome. So I’ll either just bite the bullet on these Kemper units hitting $900, or I’ll continue to watch from afar.

FWIW, my interest in dual profiles is more for digitizing my OD/Boost collection to be used with my digitized amps. I think that’s a killer feature of the QC.
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I would love it if I could digitize my OD pedals. I have a ton of them that I like. I did profile a few of my pedals with my Kemper. The results were varied. Some sounded decent but came out dark. Others came out good. I have not tried this with the liquid profile feature. It may work better now.
 
JasonE said:
I would love it if I could digitize my OD pedals. I have a ton of them that I like. I did profile a few of my pedals with my Kemper. The results were varied. Some sounded decent but came out dark. Others came out good. I have not tried this with the liquid profile feature. It may work better now.
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Taboo around here but it sounds like you'd enjoy a QC
 
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