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still some mesa heritage of tantalum caps and components soldered over the top of other components though!
Potential Mesa Reissues? IIC+ and Dual Rec
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JiveTurkey
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IIc+ using those Bugera Molex connectors 
James Freeman
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Yep, very much like the extremely low cost Behringer tube amps.IIc+ using those Bugera Molex connectors
Even Peavey moved on from these fire hazard connectors with the newer 6505 reissues.
Looks like Gibson are making their PCBs as cheaply as possible, I mean top soldered high voltage lines...
No way this is passing the new European regulations.
JiveTurkey
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IIRC; I actually fixed my own burnt out connector on my 6260!Yep, very much like the extremely low cost Behringer tube amps.
Even Peavey moved on from these fire hazard connectors with the newer 6505 reissues.
Looks like Gibson are making their PCBs as cheaply as possible, I mean top soldered high voltage lines...
No way this is passing the new European regulations.
JiveTurkey
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Desertdweller
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The power transformer has a plug-in connector then right? Is there risk of melting the plastic? 4090 video cards had this issue too, but this was resolved recently.
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Are those failing though? I could see there being benefits to not having to solder off a pile of cables if the transformer needs replacing or you want to pull the board.
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Same deal in a mark 7
Also here on a pre-Gibson JP2C. So it's not a "gibson thing" its just a mesa thing
Also here on a pre-Gibson JP2C. So it's not a "gibson thing" its just a mesa thing
JiveTurkey
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The premise that they are only needs to hold for a few more weeks
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Behringer Mk VI'd
James Freeman
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Yes, looks like the PT has these solderless push-in "knife" connectors on the input and output of the transformer, including the high voltage side.
I don't know how reliable these particular connectors are but history shows that they are very much not.
Can you image what happens when a high voltage (350vAC) wire pops out of its solderless 'knife' socket?
laxu
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You heard it here first, all IIC+ reissues have a fatal flaw that triggers right before Christmas! Return yours now!The premise that they are only needs to hold for a few more weeks
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Yes.
Even cheap ass Peavey moved away from these 'knife' connectors, the PT and power lines are all Spade connectors and all the Molex connector pins are crimped.
My 6505 1992:
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Present here in a pre-Gibson Fillmore
Also in present here in badlander:
Also in present here in badlander:
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People have been complaining about the way Mesas are built since the dawn of the internet AFAIK
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But to follow that up, Mesa has been using these connectors for several years at this point, and I’ve never heard of any widespread failures on them… or any at all actually
James Freeman
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Present here in a pre-Gibson Fillmore
Also in present here in badlander:
Oh, indeed, looks like the pre-Gibson Mesa is using the same connectors for the PT.
I want people to be happy with their amps so I'm going to stop, but in my opinion these connectors are garbage because they fail with plenty of evidence.
Maybe this specific brand of connector is much sturdier? I still don't trust it.
JiveTurkey
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My biggest Mesa fear is if something goes wrong; there are no techs closeby. Other than the turd about an hour and a half away who, right after COVID; stated he would purposely push Mesa warranty repair work to the back of his pile.
