Potential Mesa Reissues? IIC+ and Dual Rec

[EOengineer]

75 watts might be simul class power.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Some spec sheets from a Boogie FB group.

 

[MirrorProfiles]

Why power soak?

 

[JiveTurkey]

"Extra features: n/a"

 

[EOengineer]

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Some spec sheets from a Boogie FB group.

I guess I’m wrong - they specifically call it out as a single channel dual mode amp.

These spec sheets are a wild ride. I kinda love how there’s a N/A in almost every feature row. How un-Mesa.

Glad they are doing simul class, wish they had the slave out, which I find SO useful on many of their amps.

 

[JiveTurkey]

I like that it has the pull controls, too

 

[0XI0]

I guess I’m wrong - they specifically call it out as a single channel dual mode amp.

These spec sheets are a wild ride. I kinda love how there’s a N/A in almost every feature row. How un-Mesa.

Glad they are doing simul class, wish they had the slave out, which I find SO useful on many of their amps.

even with two channels there's only one of them actually usable at any given time

 

[0XI0]

I like that it has the pull controls, too

I'm surprised they didn't mandala effect presence pull shift out of the collective conscious!

they probably just couldn't wrap their head around the copper cartwheels going on to get it done. I'll miss Mesa/Boogie bad

 

[spawnofthesith]

$3599 is definitely much cheaper than I was anticipating

 

[spawnofthesith]

If I was going to pay that price ..I would just save and buy a real one.

But I wouldn't do any of that.

for real

$3600 vs $6-10k?

 

[likitlikeyoulikeit]

$3600 vs $6-10k?

I stand by my statement.

But I drink different Kool Aid.

 

[JiveTurkey]

The simplified channels and modes is kinda cool. Especially for how my dumb brain looks at Mk amps.

 

[Desertdweller]

You all know I’m the biggest Mesa fan around, and I don’t get the hype on the reissues. Those that want these amps, hey you have an option now, for me the currently available VII / JP2C and the MW Duals are pretty much unmatched.

 

[spawnofthesith]

I think a lot of people have been asking for this for a long time, and it's cool that it's being offered. More options are always good



Waiting to see what, if any impact this release may have on the used III market myself

 

[laxu]

I can already see all the forum punters going "well it doesn't sound exactly like my original 2C+!" like they did for the Mark V and VII.

I don't really see the appeal when the V or VII has largely those tones, and the Multiwatt Recto should cover the Recto side just fine.

The European pricing for these will likely be a total joke if they are that expensive in the US.

 

[spawnofthesith]

I can already see all the forum punters going "well it doesn't sound exactly like my original 2C+!" like they did for the Mark V and VII.

I don't really see the appeal when the V or VII has largely those tones, and the Multiwatt Recto should cover the Recto side just fine.

The European pricing for these will likely be a total joke if they are that expensive in the US.

First point, absolutely. Even if Randall himself never sold the company, was still there, and spearheading this forum types would be ragging on it. Since he's not around and ya know Gibson it'll get ragged on even worse. And yet, I'm sure these will sell like hot cakes

Not everyone wants a complex amp like a V or VII or even JPIIC, and even those amps get ragged on for not sounding "close enough" (especially the V)

European pricing of Mesas makes me sad for Europeans

 

[JiveTurkey]

I can already see all the forum punters going "well it doesn't sound exactly like my original 2C+!" like they did for the Mark V and VII.

I don't really see the appeal when the V or VII has largely those tones, and the Multiwatt Recto should cover the Recto side just fine.

The European pricing for these will likely be a total joke if they are that expensive in the US.

5 band Mesa eq pedal into Blug loop?

 

[laxu]

European pricing of Mesas makes me sad for Europeans

There's like 400 € extra on the price of a Mark VII head compared to US retail price + Finnish VAT.

5 band Mesa eq pedal into Blug loop?

I already ended up selling my Boss GE-200 because I didn't find good enough usecases for the EQ!

 

[Desertdweller]

Guitar Players: Can you just make a modern Triaxis in a pedal format with MIDI and IRs like your competitors are doing?

Gibson: How about no? Here’s more 1984 tech for you. Innovation schminovation.

I’ve always seen every new Mesa product as innovative. There’s a progression in each new amp. You could see the lineage from the Stiletto to th Royal Atlantic to the Triple Crown and Badlander. You could see each new rectifier amp was a revision to try to improve its flexibility and usefulness culminating with amps like the Road King 2, the Roadster, and the MW Rectos. The Mark amps keep getting better and more varied / useful, with interesting innovations like onboard Two Notes boards, IRs, onboard boosts like the shred mode, etc.

I never considered Mesa a company taking steps backwards until now. Not a fan of these reissues.

 

[GreatGreen]

I guess I’m wrong - they specifically call it out as a single channel dual mode amp.

These spec sheets are a wild ride. I kinda love how there’s a N/A in almost every feature row. How un-Mesa.

Glad they are doing simul class, wish they had the slave out, which I find SO useful on many of their amps.

That's a Randall thing. He's said in interviews he thinks the common understanding of "amp channels" is wrong. It's mostly just semantics though.

In other words, Randall would probably classify the Bogner Ecstasy as a two channel amp with three "modes," because the Ecstasy's Blue and Red channels exist on the same circuit, the only difference between the Blue and Red "modes" being Red has some additional gain staging and a few other components routed in, etc. But the Green channel exists on its own dedicated circuit or "channel" as Randall might call it. Two channels, three modes.

Whether you say the Mark IIC+ is a single channel amp with two modes, or a two channel amp... it's really all the same to the user. 6 vs half dozen. Po-TAY-to / po-TAH-to, etc.