Line 6 Helix Stadium

Yes. A capture captures the amp’s settings. If you’re shit at tweaking your amp, your capture is shit, same as any other amp. If you can’t get a Mesa to sound good, you’re an idiot who doesn’t deserve a Mesa
Well, I guess I could have said that better. But my point was that you become so dependent on the capturer it might be a total crap shoot.
 
I have NO idea why people have such a hard time tweaking their amp sounds. That's the fun part!

All I do is plug in, turn a few knobs and it sounds great. That said, I'll admit that it can be a chore with IRs and FRFR etc.

Most times, I'm just going into a nice guitar cab with IR and cab modeling disabled and it's SO easy to get a great sound in minutes...even seconds.
 
I have NO idea why people have such a hard time tweaking their amp sounds. That's the fun part!

All I do is plug in, turn a few knobs and it sounds great. That said, I'll admit that it can be a chore with IRs and FRFR etc.

Most times, I'm just going into a nice guitar cab with IR and cab modeling disabled and it's SO easy to get a great sound in minutes...even seconds.
The big problem is once you finally nail that tone in your head, you have to post it up online to make sure everyone agrees with you. Only then are you allowed to play guitar, but by then it's time for sup and it's taco night. You know damn well after 17-18 of those tasty treats the only thing you'll have energy for is searching reverb listings on the couch
 
Does Mesa even work well with captures given their stubborn tweakiness?
IMO the Mesa Mark series is probably the worst amp to use with captures. There's so many places to explore on any Mesa Mark beyond the archetype Graphic EQ V-curve metal tone. It's the "find your favorite nuances" amp range. Which can be a pain in the ass if all you want is to quickly get going.

Other Mesa amps...maybe a more mixed bag.
 
I didn’t like it (Neural). I think the Helix is better. Maybe I should try it again.
I’ve found the SLO models to be kinda all over the map. The HQ Soldano on my Hotone is nice but it has Clean, Crunch and Lead choices. The Soldano in my NUX Amp Academy is not something I really like. It’s not due to it being a completely inferior modeler IMO because I dig the Uber and Friedman on it. It makes me wonder if I’d even like the real thing. I do respect what has been accomplished on it on a few recordings though.
 
IMO the Mesa Mark series is probably the worst amp to use with captures. There's so many places to explore on any Mesa Mark beyond the archetype Graphic EQ V-curve metal tone. It's the "find your favorite nuances" amp range. Which can be a pain in the ass if all you want is to quickly get going.

Other Mesa amps...maybe a more mixed bag.

I get your point and to a certain degree I agree.

But on the other hand: If you make your own captures, you can make one for every one of those magical places you discover and then have all of them instantly available - and without bringing your amp.
 
I get your point and to a certain degree I agree.

But on the other hand: If you make your own captures, you can make one for every one of those magical places you discover and then have all of them instantly available - and without bringing your amp.
That is true, but for 3rd party captures it's a wild west out there. The more complex the amp, the less fun it gets IMO.
 
I’m in the camp of “I like captures of my own amp settings so I can conveniently use it anywhere”. It’s the ONE thing I really miss about the QC and it’s why I plan on getting the Stadium. The only 3rd party capture I stuck with when I had my QC was a Dual Rec capture that was 1000 times better than the model.
 
I think if one owns the helix or the new stadium or the fractal units that there’s so many amps in there already that tweaking them could probably get you close to other amps
My personal favorite am I’ve played in. My life is a train wreck. I know there’s a different versions and I don’t remember what version it was. I didn’t own it of course but this was many years ago. I had a chance to buy one at a pretty good price, but somebody else scooped it up, but I did get to play it a bunch of times and the dynamics were amazing in it and I see that some of these modeling manufacturers have a version of train wreck in there, which I haven’t really playedbut when I get my stadium XL I think it might have a pretty good one in there to try at least
 
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