Line 6 Helix Stadium

[banned]

Everyone is going to have their own takes, but I'll say that while Showcase matters, it's for a subset of users....just like Proxy.

Neither is worth holding up access to Agoura, Focus View and the things that 100 percent of the users will be working with every day.

Yeah, but even if you don't want all of that stuff....most folks want scribble strips...and only the XL will have that (I'm thinking no other units smaller are going to get it since even the regular Stadium doesn't have it).

So, if you want SS, no point wanting for something more tailored to your true needs and possibly lower cost - XL is it.

 

[banned]

I am hearing squirrels and fizziness? A bit but maybe that’s the amps normal tone?

Is this what you've been calling squirrels all this time? Sheesh bro...

 

[timbuck3]

Is this what you've been calling squirrels all this time? Sheesh bro...

 

[paisleywookiee]

I am hearing squirrels and fizziness? A bit but maybe that’s the amps normal tone?

Nope, you aren’t. At least, I’m not. Sounds awesome.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Reference to the "normalizing" that Jason Sadites used to always do on Helix patches with tilt/shelf EQs, compressors and whatnot.

None of that shit’s been necessary for quite awhile now in Helix anyway.

 

[Fireproof]

RolleI am hearing squirrels and fizziness? A bit but maybe that’s the amps normal tone?

Wtf?

 

[KingsXJJ]

I am hearing squirrels and fizziness? A bit but maybe that’s the amps normal tone?

Might be time to clean out the old brain attic Tim. Apparently you have some visitors.

 

[Dom Mcsweeney]

 

[Orvillain]

 

[bucephalus]

I am hearing squirrels and fizziness? A bit but maybe that’s the amps normal tone?

Definitely going to cancel/return this. 100%

 

[BenIfin]

If you want real amp tone - you cant have it without a healthy degree of grit and gristle.

I have never been a fan of the SLO in my Stomp, but this is just so raw and penetrating .... it glorious !

 

[Karl Houseknecht]

Is it me or ... does that sound really good??

It's not just you. I just dialed in the exact settings (or as close as I could get with the FM9's dynacabs) on my FM9 and while it sounded as good, I could not achieve the same dynamics with picking alone right out of the box. That's a great amp sound.

 

[Lysander]

It's not just you. I just dialed in the exact settings (or as close as I could get with the FM9's dynacabs) on my FM9 and while it sounded as good, I could not achieve the same dynamics with picking alone right out of the box. That's a great amp sound.

I need to try building that same patch on my HX Stomp. Helix's Solo Lead OD is one of the best SLO 100 models i've ever tried, but i can't recall it ever having those dynamics either.

 

[Gary_W]

I am hearing squirrels and fizziness? A bit but maybe that’s the amps normal tone?

Personally I’m hearing another demo that sounds really impressive; I have not played a real Soldano so I have no clue how close they are from real world experience. Whatever, it sounds great. If it’s not the style of tone you like, the other examples they’ve posted so far have been very different but also sound marvellous in my opinion. Did you like any of them?

 

[Lysander]

Said it many times before, but, kids: real amps are fizzy AF. Ever played a JCM800 in real life?

That hype knob will be a welcome addition for those expecting a more processed, "hifi" tone from these models.

 

[ian_dissonance]

Said it many times before, but, kids: real amps are fizzy. AF. Ever played a JCM800 in real life?

That hype knob will be a welcome addition for those expecting a more processed, "hifi" tone on these models.

One of things that drew me to modeling was NOT having to listen to raw amp sounds.

 

[Sascha Franck]

One of things that drew me to modeling was NOT having to listen to raw amp sounds.

Similar here. But it's rather cab sounds. The infamous amplifier-in-a-miserable-rehearsal-room tone. Give me an FR wedge that I can place closer to me any day.

 

[Mongillo19]

It's not just you. I just dialed in the exact settings (or as close as I could get with the FM9's dynacabs) on my FM9 and while it sounded as good, I could not achieve the same dynamics with picking alone right out of the box. That's a great amp sound.

I will say we don't know if that was simply picking or if they rolled down the volume. Regardless it sounded great

 

[banned]

Some crazy comments. I think you guys are listening to the wrong amps through the wrong cabs / speakers.

A great amp through the right cab / speaker is fantastic. I remember I had a Bogner Duende that through my Austin Speaker Works (can't exactly remember which speaker now - believe ASW KTS 70) cab sounded like garbage....almost white noise. Then switched to I think a Scumback something - it all came together perfectly.

I also had a Mark IIC+ 1x12 back in the day that sounded not so great through the C90 speaker (or maybe EV?) I think came with it. But as we all know - it's a great sounding amp through the right cab. I ultimately got rid of it because of my bad back and how much it weighed.

Another example with a Plexi head - when played through a 2x12 G12T75 cab - rotten tone. Piercing high end and just too sharp and pokey. Infact, couldn't play through the amp because of the terrible tone and feel. Plugged into 4x12 w/ some nicely worn G12M Greenbacks - Voila! Magic.

Those are some examples. The reason I moved away from amps is because of volume. Modelers are very good today, and I can control volume perfectly. I still play my modelers through guitar cabs and it's amazing - no compromise at all. I don't mind studio monitors FRFR at all for recording - it's completely fine.

But please don't make me play through something like a FR12 or a Powercab - UGH!!

The only thing worse are IEMS which I just cannot make work (maybe because I haven't tried the $1500+ custom fit IEMs? But anything I've played through so far - Shure, Westone, KZ etc. has completed disappointed - totally robs me of feel)

Even though I like cabs - I also like fill via wedges (since the cab is usually not pointing at my ears) - but anyone who says that a good amp through a cab sounds bad just hasn't played them through the right cab and speakers.

I wish I could get some samples of how my rig sounds here in the room through some cabs. I have a cheap omni directional flat response mic - let me see if I can grab some samples (I'm very bad with recording but do know how to fire up Reaper and set up a track)

 

[GTR37]

I will say we don't know if that was simply picking or if they rolled down the volume. Regardless it sounded great

Yep , true , I suspect there is a volume rollback but either way that’s a solid clean up from a fairly high gan tone
To my ears they are definitely in the ballpark of Fractal with the clips presented this far
Obviously the proof will be when you can play it , but so far I am liking what I am hearing , and DI comment about it doesn’t sound like a line6 product for better or worse seems to be accurate