Line 6 Helix Stadium

Digital Igloo said:
I get where @Eagle 's coming from. Agoura improvements are largely about the responsiveness and playing experience, things that can't be conveyed properly in recordings/clips, especially via YouTube's compression algorithm.
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Oh for sure, I totally do too.

The experience of playing through any gear can be so subjective.
It's an easy opportunity for humour, but, it doesn't mean that what Eagle said is not true for him.
 
Digital Igloo said:
I get where @Eagle 's coming from. Agoura improvements are largely about the responsiveness and playing experience, things that can't be conveyed properly in recordings/clips, especially via YouTube's compression algorithm.
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Hands-on will be the best way to test it. I am looking forward to this as I returned the first helix 45 days after I got it 10 years ago or so before it had any major updates so I figure it’s been 10+ years plus agora is implemented into this somehow so if I get it, I should love it within 45 days and I’ll keep it otherwise if I have the same reaction it’s going back

The deal I got was about $1800 after the coupon and taxes at guitar Center matched musicians friends so for that price I hope it’s a keeper the XL version
 
Dimiguitar said:
What reason is there to think it's a transition product though? Seems packed with features. And how would someone who buys the helix stadium perceive being offered a "legit agora modeler" only a year after? Would the stadium not get more agora sims or?
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It doesn’t seem a totally new product overall… sure gui is new and slick but I guess I was expecting all new amps and effects from the “new” agoura engine.
And yes, I know that there’s going to be a few amps in there with this new engine and likely no effects, but it’s not gonna have all the old helix stuff in there and as I said a couple times it reminds me thousand having all the old apps but introducing a few examps which the xamps are way more dynamic than the regular amps and when I had the GT 1000 I was kind of bumped because I thought there would be more x amps
 
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timbuck3 said:
It doesn’t seem a totally new product overall… sure gui is new and slick but I guess I was expecting all new amps and effects from the “new” agoura engine.
And yes, I know that there’s going to be a few amps in there with this new engine and likely no effects, but it’s not gonna have all the old helix stuff in there and as I said a couple times it reminds me thousand having all the old apps but introducing a few examps which the xamps are way more dynamic than the regular amps and when I had the GT 1000 I was kind of bumped because I thought there would be more x amps
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Eagle said:
It’s not the sound so much as the playing experience for me . In a recording axe sounds pretty much exactly like the amp would in the same recording.
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Well, that makes me feel better and I understand more. I’m a gain guy so if the cleans sound good and have some give and a nice harmonics top, I’m good. It’s every little detail that kills me on the gain tones though.
 
timbuck3 said:
It doesn’t seem a totally new product overall… sure gui is new and slick but I guess I was expecting all new amps and effects from the “new” agoura engine.
And yes, I know that there’s going to be a few amps in there with this new engine and likely no effects, but it’s not gonna have all the old helix stuff in there and as I said a couple times it reminds me thousand having all the old apps but introducing a few examps which the xamps are way more dynamic than the regular amps and when I had the GT 1000 I was kind of bumped because I thought there would be more x amps
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Mongillo19 said:
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Calling it now, he'll cancel the order.
 
timbuck3 said:
It doesn’t seem a totally new product overall… sure gui is new and slick but I guess I was expecting all new amps and effects from the “new” agoura engine.
And yes, I know that there’s going to be a few amps in there with this new engine and likely no effects, but it’s not gonna have all the old helix stuff in there and as I said a couple times it reminds me thousand having all the old apps but introducing a few examps which the xamps are way more dynamic than the regular amps and when I had the GT 1000 I was kind of bumped because I thought there would be more x amps
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They will introduce more agora sims :) The hardware is capable of running them. It'll take some time for new firmwares, sure, but it's the way things tend to work now. Software develops and you get updates. But yes, I would have also wished for more agora amps at launch.
 
Digital Igloo said:
I get where @Eagle 's coming from. Agoura improvements are largely about the responsiveness and playing experience, things that can't be conveyed properly in recordings/clips, especially via YouTube's compression algorithm.
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I would absolutely love digital to give me the same experience as my tube gear because life would be much simpler ( and cheaper) but you can’t not notice the difference or should I say I can’t) .When I use axe for fx I run it through a mixer wet only because I hear and feel the DAC. It’s actually less noticeable to run a full model than fx in series with a tube amp and FCM is a definite no from me.
 
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Dimiguitar said:
They will introduce more agora sims :) The hardware is capable of running them. It'll take some time for new firmwares, sure, but it's the way things tend to work now. Software develops and you get updates. But yes, I would have also wished for more agora amps at launch.
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Yep , there has already been a few small hints on Agoura amp

I don't recall names but someone mentioned the lack of Mesa amps in the release and said at least we can get Mesa captures early next year when Proxy launches ,, and the reply was " no one is going to have to wait for proxy to get Mesa amps"

and another post stated that there will be a new amp never in any other L6 product that will be in the first few updates

so I think they might be aggressive adding models, kind of like helix was in the early days there was updates with 3 or 4 amps in there IIRC
correctly

It would be really cool if they were redoing some of the old amps if they got hold of some newer versions like the Freidman BE DLX or the new Recto reissue that amp sound killer ,
 
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