Line 6 Helix Stadium Talk

Has non-XL been officially released already or just a few stores got some stock? It's still not available in Thomann (expected in 5-7 weeks) and I was wondering if Line6 might be waiting for firmware 1.3 to be ready to release it together with the non-XL.
 
Has non-XL been officially released already or just a few stores got some stock? It's still not available in Thomann (expected in 5-7 weeks) and I was wondering if Line6 might be waiting for firmware 1.3 to be ready to release it together with the non-XL.
Very sort of weird soft launch release. Seems some have it but it’s sporadic.
 
Y’all weren’t kidding about the buggy ass experience. I can’t even get into this thing because I can’t log into my account. The QR code doesn’t generate, and if I manually type my username and password, the “Log In” button does nothing.

Very cool.

Edit: Never mind, you can skip the buggy bullshit by circumventing it. Just can’t get updates or use the editor or…
 
Y’all weren’t kidding about the buggy ass experience. I can’t even get into this thing because I can’t log into my account. The QR code doesn’t generate, and if I manually type my username and password, the “Log In” button does nothing.

Very cool.

Edit: Never mind, you can skip the buggy bullshit by circumventing it. Just can’t get updates or use the editor or…

Use Line 6 Central and connect via USB. You should be able to download the firmware and get it on there.
 
I haven’t extensively tried all the agoura amps yet (only so many hours in the day) but I’ve gone back to the Soldano a few times and either I have no idea what I’m doing (always possible) or something is weird with it. Probably just gave myself a new video idea. NDSP, Mercuriall and a bunch of other sims take 2 seconds and I’m good.

I’m gonna need to AB some clips before I make a real statement about it, but at a glance something is weird there for me.

*Update*
Did some quick A/B's, seems better when its under a microscope, I'll circle back on this and figure out why its throwing me off
 
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Take a listen and let me know what you think. After putting it under a microscope I know why it initially threw me off. At least all of this has paid dividends cause I know how to work with it now.



Legacy
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Agoura
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Same cab for both. Also a tubescreamer with the same settings for both.
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Take a listen and let me know what you think. After putting it under a microscope I know why it initially threw me off. At least all of this has paid dividends cause I know how to work with it now.



Legacy
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Agoura
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Same cab for both. Also a tubescreamer with the same settings for both.
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Just on my phone atm, will listen properly shortly. But I do find it odd that they’re this different. It’s not a higher fidelity version, the voicing/frequently balance is wildly different.

Surely one of them has to be broken/wrong?
 
Just on my phone atm, will listen properly shortly. But I do find it odd that they’re this different. It’s not a higher fidelity version, the voicing/frequently balance is wildly different.

Surely one of them has to be broken/wrong?
I’m just as puzzled, no idea. Happy to be wrong in the settings I used it’s why I pasted them. If someone has an explanation I’m all ears.
 
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I’m just as puzzled, no idea. Happy to be wrong in the settings I used it’s why I pasted them. If someone has an explanation I’m all ears.

The SLO model is the one amp model that, regardless of modeller, I struggle with. I want to get those hot-rodded Marshall sounds that I have heard others get from it. But I never can. It sounds too dark. The Agoura model is the only one I have ever managed to get it from, so I did wonder if it was either inaccurate or their reference model is off-spec somehow.
 
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The SLO model is the one amp model that, regardless of modeller, I struggle with. I want to get those hot-rodded Marshall sounds that I have heard others get from it. But I never can. It sounds too dark. The Agoura model is the only one I have ever managed to get it from, so I did wonder if it was either inaccurate or their reference model is off-spec somehow.
In my examples it’s the one that’s scooped and has a notch of more top end. Probably why it’s helped get you those tones. Usually a fair bit more low end and mids throughout it
 
I'm finding that across all of the high gain options, the master volumes are chronically too loud. Every single damn time. It is probably a big part of why there's a perception for some of us that the amps sound dark.
 
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