Line 6 Helix Stadium Talk

[Los-D]

Damn, that REVV sounds awesome.

 

[EOengineer]

many comments I see say yes it feels a bit better , but if your expecting it to be miles away from the OG and some new ground breaking modelling it is not really that

Comments like that confuse me, and honestly it’s become my unofficial demarcation line for determining who has likely owned and played through the hardware vs only listening to clips.

Whether or not someone likes Agoura is one thing, but there is absolutely zero doubt upon plugging into the new hardware that it feels MUCH different than prior generations.

I think a lot of people are talking out their asses on the interwebs. You’re definitely approaching it correctly trying to get your hands on it before coming to hard conclusions.

 

[Chocol8]

but there is absolutely zero doubt upon plugging into the new hardware that it feels MUCH different than prior generations.

I think a lot of people are talking out their asses on the interwebs.

I think there are a lot of people who comment on gear they have never played, a lot of people who may have played the gear but have no experience with actual amps at volume to serve as a frame of reference, especially for things like feel, and then there are the people who must be stone deaf. Between them they make online opinions extremely hard to sort through.

 

[bucephalus]

I think there are a lot of people who comment on gear they have never played, a lot of people who may have played the gear but have no experience with actual amps at volume to serve as a frame of reference, especially for things like feel, and then there are the people who must be stone deaf. Between them they make online opinions extremely hard to sort through.

I'm definitely one of them, haven't played many real amps at volume due to being acoustic most my life until last few years. But then I don't weigh in with an opinion about accuracy at all so guess I'm safe.

 

[marshall2553]

Whether or not someone likes Agoura is one thing, but there is absolutely zero doubt upon plugging into the new hardware that it feels MUCH different than prior generations.

I had a Stomp for a while and I agree. I was instantly impressed by the feel and dynamics of some of the new amp models when I first tried a Stadium. I wasn't really blown away by the Stomp, but to be fair I think that was before the oversampling improvements.

 

[mikah912]

I think the Revv sounds pretty good here
5153 and Jube I don’t love to be honest
As much as I hate to say it some of LT clips of QC recently have gotten better tones , whether it more real or idealized. I don’t know it sound better brighter more raw to my ears

I think the interface is second to none and it’s a really amazing looking piece but I will have to try it and see , many comments I see say yes it feels a bit better , but if your expecting it to be miles away from the OG and some new ground breaking modelling it is not really that

I don't think anyone is hitching their wagon to the Agoura 5153 right now. There's a consensus - that I happen to agree with - that it sounds off.

The Jubilee, on the other hand, kicks ass. I dialed it to exactly what I wanted from it, and created multiple snapshots in, maybe, 10 minutes of first getting that firmware installed. I'll put my clip with factory cabs - created even quicker - up again:



I got along better with the Agoura Jubilee than I ever did with the QC one. And it's great for modern metal with a Plumes or Precision Drive in front too.

 

[Chocol8]

I'm definitely one of them, haven't played many real amps at volume due to being acoustic most my life until last few years.

There is nothing wrong with that, although I feel like every electric player should get to experience playing in front of a fully cranked 100 w NMV Marshall full stack at least once!

But then I don't weigh in with an opinion about accuracy at all so guess I'm safe.

Exactly! I don't share my opinions on Martin vs Taylor acoustics because I don't have more than 10 minutes playing either of them. OTOH, I am sure there is at least one guy on ToP that will tell you all about the differences having never played either. Its weird!

 

[DanRad]

FEATURE REQUEST for the Librarian:

When arranging new setlists, two things would be extraordinarily helpful:

1) The ability to have two windows open, one for the User preset folder and one for the new setlist.
2) The ability to arrange songs in one of the windows in alphabetical order instead of by slot. When your master setlist has dozens of songs, it can be time-consuming to find one particular song in that list. The search is very helpful, but if a list could be in alphabetical order, you could find, select and move multiple songs at a time.

Just an idea!

 

[Elf]

The Jubilee, on the other hand, kicks ass. I dialed it to exactly what I wanted from it, and created multiple snapshots in, maybe, 10 minutes of first getting that

I had a original many years ago and this sounds just like a remember it did.. it actually made me nostalgic hearing your track!

 

[DanRad]

@Digital Igloo, the bug where you'd be popped back over to the User setlist when editing and saving a preset in a different setlist was fixed in 1.2 — for the unit. But that still happens if you edit and save in the Helix app. Just FYI.

Thanks!

 

[jay mitchell]

I feel like every electric player should get to experience playing in front of a fully cranked 100 w NMV Marshall full stack at least once!

Having had that experience on multiple occasions, I nonetheless take the opposite position. It's a noteworthy experience; nothing more, nothing less. It has little to do with actually making music and is certainly not essential to the process. Furthermore, if you really do only have that experience once, odds are that it won't be a particularly good one.

My opinion is that every electric (and acoustic) player should get to experience playing ensemble with a group of seasoned, skilled players, ideally at sub-hearing-damage volume levels. The ability to cooperate with other musicians in real time to create a cohesive musical sound can only be developed via that type of experience.

 

[Chocol8]

Having had that experience on multiple occasions, I nonetheless take the opposite position. It's a noteworthy experience; nothing more, nothing less. It has little to do with actually making music and is certainly not essential to the process. Furthermore, if you really do only have that experience once, odds are that it won't be a particularly good one.

My opinion is that every electric (and acoustic) player should get to experience playing ensemble with a group of seasoned, skilled players, ideally at sub-hearing-damage volume levels. The ability to cooperate with other musicians in real time to create a cohesive musical sound can only be developed via that type of experience.

It should be an and thing, not an or.

It may depend on musical tastes and interests, but I am personally interested in the history of the gear and tones as well as the history of the music and how they influenced each other. From my perspective, standing in front of a 100 watt stack or other similar power is a different experience and it influences the way you play and experience the music. I don't think I could fully appreciate Cream, Hendrix, EVH, Nugent, Freddie King, Santana or many others until I played in front of a loud amp. IMHO, many young guitarists who are missing that experience would find it eye opening and it might change their perspective on both old music and new tech. FWIW I almost always wore hearing protection even back in the day, and I certainly advocate any musician protect the ears.

 

[laxu]

I think everyone should have the experience of playing real tube amps at loud volumes in a reasonably large room. Not window rattling, heads blowing up volumes, but just loud. It's just very fun, and might even be a bit scary the first time you hit a note and it's jumping at you from the speakers.

 

[Chocol8]

in a reasonably large room.

Or outdoors!