Line 6 Helix Stadium Talk

many comments I see say yes it feels a bit better , but if your expecting it to be miles away from the OG and some new ground breaking modelling it is not really that
Comments like that confuse me, and honestly it’s become my unofficial demarcation line for determining who has likely owned and played through the hardware vs only listening to clips.

Whether or not someone likes Agoura is one thing, but there is absolutely zero doubt upon plugging into the new hardware that it feels MUCH different than prior generations.

I think a lot of people are talking out their asses on the interwebs. You’re definitely approaching it correctly trying to get your hands on it before coming to hard conclusions.
 
but there is absolutely zero doubt upon plugging into the new hardware that it feels MUCH different than prior generations.

I think a lot of people are talking out their asses on the interwebs.

I think there are a lot of people who comment on gear they have never played, a lot of people who may have played the gear but have no experience with actual amps at volume to serve as a frame of reference, especially for things like feel, and then there are the people who must be stone deaf. Between them they make online opinions extremely hard to sort through.
 
I think there are a lot of people who comment on gear they have never played, a lot of people who may have played the gear but have no experience with actual amps at volume to serve as a frame of reference, especially for things like feel, and then there are the people who must be stone deaf. Between them they make online opinions extremely hard to sort through.
I'm definitely one of them, haven't played many real amps at volume due to being acoustic most my life until last few years. But then I don't weigh in with an opinion about accuracy at all so guess I'm safe.
 
Whether or not someone likes Agoura is one thing, but there is absolutely zero doubt upon plugging into the new hardware that it feels MUCH different than prior generations.
I had a Stomp for a while and I agree. I was instantly impressed by the feel and dynamics of some of the new amp models when I first tried a Stadium. I wasn't really blown away by the Stomp, but to be fair I think that was before the oversampling improvements.
 
I think the Revv sounds pretty good here
5153 and Jube I don’t love to be honest
As much as I hate to say it some of LT clips of QC recently have gotten better tones , whether it more real or idealized. I don’t know it sound better brighter more raw to my ears

I think the interface is second to none and it’s a really amazing looking piece but I will have to try it and see , many comments I see say yes it feels a bit better , but if your expecting it to be miles away from the OG and some new ground breaking modelling it is not really that

I don't think anyone is hitching their wagon to the Agoura 5153 right now. There's a consensus - that I happen to agree with - that it sounds off.

The Jubilee, on the other hand, kicks ass. I dialed it to exactly what I wanted from it, and created multiple snapshots in, maybe, 10 minutes of first getting that firmware installed. I'll put my clip with factory cabs - created even quicker - up again:



I got along better with the Agoura Jubilee than I ever did with the QC one. And it's great for modern metal with a Plumes or Precision Drive in front too.
 
I'm definitely one of them, haven't played many real amps at volume due to being acoustic most my life until last few years.

There is nothing wrong with that, although I feel like every electric player should get to experience playing in front of a fully cranked 100 w NMV Marshall full stack at least once!


But then I don't weigh in with an opinion about accuracy at all so guess I'm safe.

Exactly! I don't share my opinions on Martin vs Taylor acoustics because I don't have more than 10 minutes playing either of them. OTOH, I am sure there is at least one guy on ToP that will tell you all about the differences having never played either. Its weird!
 
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