Sascha Franck
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But it's not analog gear.
Line 6 Helix Stadium Pre-Launch Discussion
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But it's not analog gear.
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Correct. And that’s why it’s important to consider what aspects get carried over and which don’t. Many emulations get carried away and miss what makes the original gear tick in the first place. Like I explained already….
In some cases there might be a work around, but not all of them. And that was the case before the new setting for the auto input impedance change, and yet it was added - because it just makes more sense. If ease of use for the regular guy is the goal here, I see absolutely no reason for these default values be the way they are.
There's one thing I think should be changed, but there's an actual work around. I don't think the default setting for the volume block should be linear. Volume pedals are logarithmic. But in this case, yes, very easy work around... But I personally think it's odd to have linear as default.
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Yep!
In my head, there are broadly two types of compressors: compressors that are immediately good at specific things because of their interface and the decisions made for you, and versatile utility compressors. I will go for the latter 90+% of the time, easily, and I find a lot of the former way overhyped for practical, informed use... but there are certain situations (acoustic guitars, electric guitars in the case of pre-amplifier, sometimes drums, vocals, etc) where those specialized compressors just immediately get you That Sound in a way that is pretty hard to mess up, and in the digital realm that's their whole point of existing (for me anyway). So, I tend to agree that keeping the available parameters (basically) authentic is the best bet here.
I do think there are good arguments for having a few extra adjustment parameters hidden away for edge cases though, especially in the context of a modeler where a lot of layering and sidechaining tricks are clumsy (or impossible) to do, and I guess in this case I'd prefer for them to be "hidden" away on another page like many plugins do, or only visible with something like an "authentic vs ideal" toggle... though my ideal there would just be an extremely versatile compressor block with various presets based on famous compressors (e.g. like DC8C, or how Fractal approaches some things).
Sascha Franck
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I actually think there could be more curves to choose from. Boss has 6 and it's defenitely useful.
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Thank you for bringing us back on track. I’m guessing (hoping for) the Solo100.
Nope.
Oh that's a proper nut to crack but a must have for me in any modeler. The best AC30 I have heard so far is the UA Ruby.
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I think this is among the ones that may not need too much "agoura-ing" all that soon, simply because it's absolutely excellent already (no idea how close to the real deal it is, though).
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Travelling around at the moment ... so not much posting ... but had a thought.
Re: Stadium and the "Hype" control naming.
To *me* the Stadium seems like its been designed and going to be a balls-to-the-wall top tier pro level device ... "almost" no compromises.
So is it just me (?) that thinks using the word "Hype" for this control is a bit gimmicky or consumer-grade ?
I think what it does is brilliant and it will be super popular amongst all levels of users ... however ... maybe something like "Idealized" or "Refined" (?)
Re: Stadium and the "Hype" control naming.
To *me* the Stadium seems like its been designed and going to be a balls-to-the-wall top tier pro level device ... "almost" no compromises.
So is it just me (?) that thinks using the word "Hype" for this control is a bit gimmicky or consumer-grade ?
I think what it does is brilliant and it will be super popular amongst all levels of users ... however ... maybe something like "Idealized" or "Refined" (?)
Using Hype is just fine. I'm stoked that it appears Ch. Volume has been renamed to just Level.
They're clearly aiming to be professional-grade and consumer-approachable. That's why they have the description of parameters pop up when you select them specifically. And why they have the 3D graphics. And the hype knob. And a version with a built-in expression pedal.
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The hype knob I think is a not so subtle tip off the hat to a certain company that’s plug in use a bunch of post processing and blasts your email for days with any new release
Just like Sheep icon is poking fun at themselves saying capturing is unfortunately now table stakes but everyone is doing it so we will as well,but they see Kemper as the OG and the rest are following his lead like sheep
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I really don’t know where that “bunch of post processing” thing comes from. The difference in amp sounds to me seems more like a different load used.
I also think the Hype control is dumb (no matter what it’s called) and if the option is there to remove it, I probably will. “Improving” the tone in some way is so context dependent, I don’t want someone just taking a blind stab in the dark at it. I love almost everything about Stadiums new features but the whole hype knob thing is not the direction I want things to go in. It’s a solution looking for a problem.
I also think the Hype control is dumb (no matter what it’s called) and if the option is there to remove it, I probably will. “Improving” the tone in some way is so context dependent, I don’t want someone just taking a blind stab in the dark at it. I love almost everything about Stadiums new features but the whole hype knob thing is not the direction I want things to go in. It’s a solution looking for a problem.
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They're taking the piss out of Neural DSP and how hyped their amp sims are, and how everyone loves them and believes the marketing hype about realism, when they're simply not realistic.
I mean, they explained the reasoning pretty clearly, and it really has almost nothing to do with poking fun at competitors.
People's perception of amps as they hear them on records after tons of EQ, boosts and post-processing is applied is often divorced from the reality of said amp played raw in the room. The same way people say that they love Mesa Mark tones from Metallica or Dream Theater, but struggle to dial them in. The same way they think that Plexis and JCM 800s have tons of gain because of the way that they hear them on records. Or how 5150s are a benchmark metal tone, but sound fizzy and suboptimal when you plug straight in.
That is why the hype knob exists. Hell, take modeling out of the equation. The entire "boutique amp" industry is largely-based on real-life Hype knobs (AKA mods) getting core Marshall/Fender/Vox/Mesa circuits closer to the sound, saturation and response buyers THINK they should have.
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There is a video of Igor with a Badonk model comparing to Gojira , there is definitely some low cut some high cut going or what Igor mentions the tone controls have a limited sweep and seem to focus on a sweet spot like the range between 11oclock and 2 o’clock on a normal amp ,that avoids too much lows and too much highs , I am not saying it a bad thing at all
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