ragingplatypi
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Not only do we have to listen with our ears instead of our eyes, but also we have to listen to what’s happening now, not listen to our memory of the perfect tone we had before.
Oh, you're absolutely right; we all have to start somewhere. The problem arises when the exact same exchange happens over and over and over, and a hundred Facebook posters who do know better (because they've seen the above exchange over and over and over) never seem to ask the one question that matters most:Ya know, with all the advertising and all the word of mouth about modelers, you can't expect the general public to know better.
Ads for the modelers don't mention playback systems. They don't tell you that after you spend almost 2 grand on your modeler,
that you need to spend 1/2 or 2/3s that amount on a good playback system...
Is it unrealistic for some of that to ask that be told also?
I can tell you that 300 dollar or whatever Alto 10's sound extremely close to my studio monitors in terms of the guitar tone, just louder. I keep hearing how we need to spend 1500 dollars on "FRFR"'s but when I try them, they really don't sound any closer to my studio monitors
"What's your playback system?"
A Pair of Line6 Powercabs, gets me the sound /tone i want in my room, Sure i had a pair of Headrush "FRFR"-108's yes they are budget but they sounded good for the price, but my Powercabs are much better"What's your playback system?"
I understand having headphones, studio monitors and maybe a "FRFR" setup or poweramp + guitar cab for live use. But each of those needs to be quality stuff if you want the best sound out of them.I’ve been fascinated by the problem of the playback system for a while. There are so many conflicting needs for each player and playing scenario.
I currently have 3 playback systems- high end headphones, a high end stereo system, and an open back 1x10 combo amp with an effects loop. They each have their purpose, and their own strengths and weaknesses.
I’m starting to realize playback systems are like guitars. At any given time I have 4 different guitars, each offering something different (single coils, humbuckers, acoustic, different scale lengths). Ideally I will have 3-4 playback systems allowing me silence for nighttime, accuracy for recording, loudness for gigs, and the guitar amp experience.
A potato of course! High quality!"What's your playback system?"
My Yukon Gold is more solid than your Silverton Russet!A potato of course! High quality!
If it aint purple, don't eat it
Theoretically I agree. But then there’s reality. Whether it’s money, or just the nature of a gig where you’re using other people’s gear, a lot of folks won’t have access to great options all the time. So I think it’s worth promoting better knowledge of the signal chain and knowing how to work it. For example, throwing an eq at the end of a signal chain before a house PA or backline amp helps immensely, but not everyone knows that right off the bat. I can quickly adapt my rig to any output system, but I’ve had decades to figure it out.I understand having headphones, studio monitors and maybe a "FRFR" setup or poweramp + guitar cab for live use. But each of those needs to be quality stuff if you want the best sound out of them.
I see output systems as "buy good once, keep for decades" stuff so higher prices for higher quality are warranted. Not necessarily buying the most expensive, highest end unit out there but just better than the bargain basement stuff.
Too bad Radio Shack is not around anymore.Customer 1, posting in a new thread: "What's the best "FRFR" speaker for my modeler? My budget is $20"
Too bad Radio Shack is not around anymore.
Exactly. Given people “should” know better doesn’t mean they will and for sure these modelers are marketed as aping your favorite amp “at bedroom levels”. If modeler manufacturers would have stayed away from all that stupid BS marketing hype of “sound s exactly like” and played up it’s strengths for silent stage and or recording they could have possibly saved themselves some headache but then again they wouldn’t have sold as many modelers I guess.Ya know, with all the advertising and all the word of mouth about modelers, you can't expect the general public to know better.
Ads for the modelers don't mention playback systems. They don't tell you that after you spend almost 2 grand on your modeler,
that you need to spend 1/2 or 2/3s that amount on a good playback system...
Is it unrealistic for some of that to ask that be told also?