IK Multimedia Tone X One?
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GTR37
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That’s honestly not terrible as far as latency on the pedal
I do agree though with the true bypass, it should not be adding anything to your signal
2dor
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They're pretty good. Better than Quad Cortex and Kemper - missing some high end compared to NAM & the real deal but pretty good stuff if you get the gain staging right.
Look up my Ceriatone King Kong 100W with the Mr Scary mod on tone.net - the sample turned out pretty good.
Mongillo19
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I think it's the best commercially available capture player.
Obviously not an all in one unit tho and does have its quirks
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laxu
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You mean the FM3 USB-A port? That has never done anything. It sucks Fractal can't enable it even to power things.
Can you see what processor this thing uses?
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I tried both ports but yeah. I didn't pull the boards apart but I don't have time right now - tomorrow maybe!
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Yeah it's no surprise the USB-B port doesn't work for this either, because it's meant to connect to a USB host device, usually your computer. The Fractal can't act as a USB host.
Probably the best setup would be using a small USB powerbank to power the Tonex One.
2dor
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Sooooooo....... what's the maximum input gain rating on it ?
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Yeah - I didn't really think it would, but it would've been cute if it did magically share power somehow
Sooooooo....... what's the maximum input gain rating on it ?
I have no idea - and I also don't really care haha. I set my normal tonex to -12 input pad and boost via fm3 to make up for it. I dunno what it is, but it results in a better noise floor. I don't do anything with dBu except measure it for NAM captures in case anyone else wants it - I just set it by what I like the best
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For the price of admission and knowing you’ve been hands on with it… I’ll give it a spin. Definitely would make for a very small footprint backup. Even with like the Helix and FM3 I stay on one amp model all night with a few pedals popped in and out for gain and few delays etc. If I put this on my board amp board for my amp and the I have amp issues this could be great. Or use it with my board and into a Fryette PS.
I still think JT’s FM1 idea in a small footprint would be the shzz
Mongillo19
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Just be wary of the UI quirkiness. I think it's a little overblown here but it can be a pain.
But as far as tones are concerned, I think they are very good!
You can always demo the free Tone X software to get an idea on some sounds before committing to hardware
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Actually NAM and ToneX are kind of a crapshoot IMHO. The levels are all over the place and not consistent at all. I find that to be their Achilles heel. There’s not much to be done about it though…
2dor
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True. Unless there's hardware that consistently deals with levels, it's at the mercy of the creator and the user to get the most of these profiles.
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All you really need to do is adjust them to your taste tbh. Not saying all captures are good, but the gain knob is there to be used. I also capture a lot of my own gear, and both solutions work pretty flawlessly for that
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That's where it works best in my experience. With 3rd party content it's a total crapshoot if you get something that works or not.
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You can probably power it from the faslink port if you don't have an FC connected, that puts out 12V 1A. Been doing that for a year and a half on my fm9 with a TC Helicon pedal.
I don't remember the pinout for the connection but there was a discussion on the fractal forum about it.
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Ahh, good ol' Leo and his "scientific" measurements....
For whatever's worth, the fact that Tonex ONE has seemingly higher latency when connected via USB-C is likely related to his own computer setup than the device itself. The rest looks accurate enough though - kinda surprised to see that it has less latency than the 3-button Tonex pedal.
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Totally agree. That's why I love the partner section where one can try everything first.
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It was a crapshoot in the kemper days and those generally were gainstaged consistently. When you add in the need to adjust the gain anywhere from +20dB to -20dB it just makes you think “well I might as well just use an algorithmic model and dial the whole tone in”. Way better workflow than going through a list of models and trying to work out which ones might work and what they’re intended to sound like.
If you are wanting to dial something in, captures are a poor choice IMO. The whole point to me is that the amp has been dialled in very specifically already to produce a certain sound. It might sound cool in other ways, but you’d hope the amp has already been dialled in a particular way to achieve a sound.
There is no benefit to gain staging being all over the place, the best you can hope for is something that sounds good (with accuracy becoming irrelevant). Anyone who disagrees compare the experience of Amplitube to Helix/Fractal/Neural DSP. Gain staging being all over the place without users knowing what to do=amateur hour.
If you are wanting to dial something in, captures are a poor choice IMO. The whole point to me is that the amp has been dialled in very specifically already to produce a certain sound. It might sound cool in other ways, but you’d hope the amp has already been dialled in a particular way to achieve a sound.
There is no benefit to gain staging being all over the place, the best you can hope for is something that sounds good (with accuracy becoming irrelevant). Anyone who disagrees compare the experience of Amplitube to Helix/Fractal/Neural DSP. Gain staging being all over the place without users knowing what to do=amateur hour.
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