IK Multimedia Tone X One?

[GTR37]

Lawd forgive me for sharing ToneJunkie content, but this is an interesting shootout/discussion of Helix vs. Tonex, in the context of Tonex ONE as a companion for HX products.

Why can’t he just use a normal mic on a stand like a normal person is there any advantage to holding a 5 pound mic in front of your face

 

[JiveTurkey]

TURD-X ONE AMIRIGHT?!?!?!?

 

[mbenigni]

Why can’t he just use a normal mic on a stand like a normal person is there any advantage to holding a 5 pound mic in front of your face

I think we all know the answer to this one.

 

[JiveTurkey]

I like HW

 

[mbenigni]

Lawd forgive me for sharing ToneJunkie content, but this is an interesting shootout/discussion of Helix vs. Tonex, in the context of Tonex ONE as a companion for HX products.

Hmm. "ToneX One as companion for HX products" is exactly the opposite of "TONE X vs HELIX". I don't have 30 minutes to find out what he's on about. What did we allegedly expect, and what does the video "reveal"?

 

[mbenigni]

I like HW
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[JiveTurkey]

 

[deepskyone]

"What is a database migration?" -IK Multimedia devs

ChatGPT: "Since I am just a large language model and do not know the schema of your tone_models table, I would suggest the following SQL code:

DROP TABLE tone_models;

Then you should have a blank slate for further schema adjustments."

 

[laxu]

ChatGPT: "Since I am just a large language model and do not know the schema of your tone_models table, I would suggest the following SQL code:

DROP TABLE tone_models;

Then you should have a blank slate for further schema adjustments."

Exploits of a Mom

xkcd.com

 

[GTR37]

He needs to step it up hoping for this one next time

 

[riffy]

So...

I had a Very Bad Time (TM) with the Tonex plugin when it originally came out: https://thegearforum.com/threads/tonex-pedal-its-real.1411/page-72#post-

Act 3: I start Tonex again and all my tone models (including the factory ones) are gone And of course I do not have a backup.

I did have a backup and it didn’t matter! IK Software SUCKS!

 

[IK Multimedia]

 

[IK Multimedia]

Oh, also an update doesn't [edit] remove [obviously it has to update it if there are database structure changes, new models, etc] your Library.db. So something odd happened that is abnormal in your case, in lieu of seemingly not having used the available backup/restore in the TONEX settings I'd suggest reaching out to IK Support to see if there's any other possibility to recover your Tone Models (and the factory ones are of course easily restored too but that's not the important part here for you I'd assume).

 

[IK Multimedia]

Part 3: Your TONEX Pedal/TONEX ONE get automatically backed up when you connect them and run the TONEX software. "We know what database migration is." - TONEX devs to those occupying armchairs, probably.

Per the manual WRT the above:

And how to import the default library:

 

[deepskyone]

Thanks for chiming in @IK Multimedia.

Oh, also an update doesn't touch your Library.db.

This was an important hint...

I just had another look at the TONEX directory and found two *.db files: Library.db and LibrayrCopyPreRestore.db [sic!].
I poked at them with the sqlite3 command-line tool and the latter does in fact seem to contain my tone models Guess I will make a copy and rename it "Library.db" and see what happens...

Maybe the typo in the filename is part of the problem?

EDIT: Yup, that did the trick.

 

[Desertdweller]

Part 3: Your TONEX Pedal/TONEX ONE get automatically backed up when you connect them and run the TONEX software. "We know what database migration is." - TONEX devs to those occupying armchairs, probably.

Per the manual WRT the above:
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And how to import the default library:
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Hey you’re actually IK. I returned the pedal because you PC app is unusable. I bought an $80 Mooer Preamp X that did the job and their app isn’t unusable. Within 20 minutes I had a downloaded Dual Rectifier tone capture from their server and was able to upload my own IR. I was playing music in 20 minutes on your competitor’s product. On the ToneX I couldn’t even connect to ToneNet or properly navigate your confusing app.

I feel you guys probably have better tech under the hood but I refuse to use your app anymore until something drastic changes. Look at my posts earlier in this thread as to why.

Fix it, it’s awful, it’s well known, and it’s costing you money. You guys nailed it with Amplitube 10 years ago, not sure why ToneX misses the mark so widely.

 

[pipelineaudio]

I'm slowly figuring out my life with Tonex, but holy hell the software is utter trash. Hoping for a live pedal edit mode someday. Hoping that changing settings on one preset doesn't wreck the settings on other presets using the same tone model. Hoping to see the ability to re-order presets.

 

[Desertdweller]

I'm slowly figuring out my life with Tonex, but holy hell the software is utter trash. Hoping for a live pedal edit mode someday. Hoping that changing settings on one preset doesn't wreck the settings on other presets using the same tone model. Hoping to see the ability to re-order presets.

Just because these features were available on all Rocktron gear in 1996 is no reason to expect them on a modern product nearly 30 years later.

 

[Enchilada Jones]

Yea the software is so bad and I’m pretty sure trying to fix it is really not the best solution.
Start over with different people guiding the process.

A simple goal to start them off should be:

A user can audition a ‘Tone model’ where it is found without downloading it into their library on their computer. Put it in a buffer. And make it so we can edit a downloaded amp on the pedal and save the changes right there. All from the same ‘window’ of the editor.

Any attempt to ‘sort of do something like that but not really’ and you know you have got the wrong team still.

 

[norminal]