I Gotta Wonder About Fractal's, er, "Perception"

[Richard_G]

Have you ever used a touch screen? Have you recently? They can be useful for home use AFAIC.

I do understand that they can be useful for home use. I still can't understand how some people are so obsessed with touch screens, like this is the most important feature, on anything that is supposed to be used on the floor on a gig.

 

[LeftyLoungeLizard]

Thank the IRS and the person who put it into law. But I’m willing to bet that he doesn’t even remember signing it.

Yeah, but fuck 'em all.

 

[LeftyLoungeLizard]

Aren't they just following the law?

Not in my book.

Especially the extra taxation (once you hit their lameass lowly "threshold") on previously taxed items (when purchased new) now being sold used.

 

[KingsXJJ]

I do understand that they can be useful for home use. I still can't understand how some people are so obsessed with touch screens, like this is the most important feature, on anything that is supposed to be used on the floor on a gig.

It’s like an iPad experience at home. Often allowing you to dive deep quickly and easily without an editor running on a separate device. If done well, it is great in those situations. And you don’t have to use it live just like you don’t have to use an editor. I suppose the best solution would offer a touchscreen and an editor so you can approach it however you like. Such as with the Boss GX-100.

 

[KingsXJJ]

Here’s my “contribution” for the last couple of days. Offered in support of the “Bought Too Much Shit” tag. I added a second used Boss OD-200 for some serious stacking options such as four low gain drives in a high gain experiment and seeing if one can serve as a preamp with the other tweaked to serve as a power amp simulation. And a few more I may have mentioned or not.

@DrewJD82

 

[Orvillain]

Have you ever used a touch screen? Have you recently? They can be useful for home use AFAIC.

Yes. Every single day.

 

[KingsXJJ]

Yes. Every single day.

I assume they have an editor as well?

 

[Orvillain]

I assume they have an editor as well?

What do you mean?

 

[Frodebro]

Have you ever used a touch screen? Have you recently? They can be useful for home use AFAIC.

The handheld I use at work has a touchscreen. I hate that fucking thing with a passion.

 

[KingsXJJ]

What do you mean?

That the units you use that have a touch screen also offer a PC/Mac editor as well…

 

[Frodebro]

Thank the IRS and the person who put it into law. But I’m willing to bet that he doesn’t even remember signing it.

All that shit is being undone. The 81,000 new IRS agents that were hired are currently updating their resumes.

 

[KingsXJJ]

The handheld I use at work has a touchscreen. I hate that fucking thing with a passion.

I guess it’s great there are options with items not used at work. The iPhone, iPad, my car and other touchscreen devices I use work great for me.

 

[Frodebro]

I guess it’s great there are options with items not used at work. The iPhone, iPad, my car and other touchscreen devices I use work great for me.

I’m on an iPad right now. For typing and scrolling, I have no problem with touchscreens. But I wouldn’t like to try to use one for editing a modeler.

 

[KingsXJJ]

I’m on an iPad right now. For typing and scrolling, I have no problem with touchscreens. But I wouldn’t like to try to use one for editing a modeler.

I don’t think any one is forcing you to or telling you are wrong for your preference. Some feel differently and I think that’s cool too.

 

[timbuck3]

Y'all won't get close to this god-tier level churner

I received an interesting email from REVERB today

Evidently if you sell over $600 worth of merchandise on Reverb in one years time, Reverb is going to issue you a 1099 form for your taxes that you have to claim on your income taxes! And if you do not provide them with the proper tax information, they will withhold any money from sales that you...

www.thegearpage.net

But I think on your tax form you can say it’s personal things and you won’t get tax for them because most of the time people sell personal things at a loss I may be incorrect but that’s kind of what I heard because everything I sell online on Poshmark is usually less than I got them for so I always lose money but I just want to get rid of stuff

 

[Frodebro]

I don’t think any one is forcing you to or telling you are wrong for your preference. Some feel differently and I think that’s cool too.

Oh, don't get me wrong. I'm just saying that I personally wouldn't prefer one, much like you are saying the opposite. Neither is right or wrong, but if the developers who hang out around here only see one perspective, it would give them an inaccurate view of market demands. Now if a unit that checks all of my boxes otherwise also had a touchscreen, I would accept it without complaint and adjust.

 

[timbuck3]

While I'm happy to discuss Fractal specifics with those interested, for those who already have a preconception of it or how it works, it's really kinda futile. You'll hit a cross roads of "I don't want to spend all that time tweaking" and "Modelers make everything sound the same", so when you try to counter one with the other, they find a supposed 'Gotcha!' while still not understanding how any of it works.

And if you have a legit counter for any claim, out come the caveats. It's easier to just rock out with the things, the people who need a Fractal in their lives will find their way to it.

My understanding is that fractal as with maybe most modellers can be a simple or intricate as you’d like it to be meaning if you just pull up a amp cab put some effects on it. It could sound pretty good from the Geto without any tweaking or at least minimal tweaking.
So even though it may have five or 10 pages of extra two weeks you don’t have to use them to sound good and some people get carried away with it and others don’t even go there

 

[Frodebro]

My understanding is that fractal as with maybe most modellers can be a simple or intricate as you’d like it to be meaning if you just pull up a amp cab put some effects on it. It could sound pretty good from the Geto without any tweaking or at least minimal tweaking.
So even though it may have five or 10 pages of extra two weeks you don’t have to use them to sound good and some people get carried away with it and others don’t even go there

This is correct. The "authentic' page in the amp block gives you exactly the controls that are on the modeled amp, and nothing else. The page right below that has those controls, but adds a handful of others (bright cap on/off plus capacitor value, high treble control, and a few other things that slip my mind). Then there are pages where you can tweak the preamp and power amp (including swapping tubes and tone stacks), then an input EQ, an output EQ, and a bit more.

So you can go insanely deep, but only if you want to.

 

[Stone]

This is correct. The "authentic' page in the amp block gives you exactly the controls that are on the modeled amp, and nothing else. The page right below that has those controls, but adds a handful of others (bright cap on/off plus capacitor value, high treble control, and a few other things that slip my mind). Then there are pages where you can tweak the preamp and power amp (including swapping tubes and tone stacks), then an input EQ, an output EQ, and a bit more.

So you can go insanely deep, but only if you want to.

Its those other deep parameters that can get you where you want or need that you just can't do on any other modeler

 

[TSJMajesty]

....and others don’t even go there

I'm one. Once I tweaked a handful of factory presets to my liking, I rarely edit anything, and just play. But I also don't gig or record.

If one has a compulsion to "see what all these other things do," might wanna think hard before getting a Fractal modeler.

But even if you are a "tweaker", there are plenty of great videos to make it easy to learn and do.