I Gotta Wonder About Fractal's, er, "Perception"

[Bruce]

You think elves widdle those boxes together? Lol

Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised. If they’re making anything it’s Keebler cookies and FM9 units.

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised. If they’re making anything it’s Keebler cookies and FM9 units.

Bad visual. Lol

 

[deadpool_25]

It used to be done to sell albums now its done to sell shirts.

Truth

But 79 shows in 8 month aint a heavy schedule.

I have no experience to go off so I'll take your word for that but I don't give a shit what you say, 25 countries is a damn world tour

When i still worked last one i did which now is eons ago (7 years) was 74 shows in 3 month (Europe only).
And i netted only about a grand.

That sounds both awesome and awful all at the same time.

 

[gdhi11]

Yup. Anyone assuming Cliff just wants Fractal to be another mass-produced, consumer-driven commodity
is probably missing the mark by a loooooooooooooooooooooong, looooooooooooong ways.

Oh I do think he wants to sell stuff, but I just feel like his clientele is different and that's his market niche.

you do see plenty of Fractal in churches btw.

 

[Bruce]

I’m sorry, I’d sooner want an entry level Rolex. I’m sure I’m not alone on this.

 

[gdhi11]

I used to lurk in a bunch of P&W fb groups, it was kinda wild to be a fly on the wall and see what they were into.

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

Truth

I have no experience to go off so I'll take your word for that but I don't give a shit what you say, 25 countries is a damn world tour

That sounds both awesome and awful all at the same time.

It is. As i said earlier i know nothing of the band and when i goodled them a handful European dates showed only.

I absolutely stand corrected. Yes as soon as its multiple continents its a world tour.

 

[JiveTurkey]

 

[DrewJD82]

It is. As i said earlier i know nothing of the band and when i goodled them a handful European dates showed only.

I absolutely stand corrected. Yes as soon as its multiple continents its a world tour.

They’re a decently popular band, someone you’d see on a Periphery tour. I’d imagine you’re at least aware of Periphery, it’s hard not to be as they’re kinda like the NDSP of bands, but I actually enjoy some of their output.

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

They’re a decently popular band, someone you’d see on a Periphery tour. I’d imagine you’re at least aware of Periphery, it’s hard not to be as they’re kinda like the NDSP of bands, but I actually enjoy some of their output.

One of the reasons i pretty much dont listen to music.
I think the last newer stuff i listened to and enjoyed Karnivool, Gojira, Polyphia.

But i likely wont listen to it again.
When i spent an average if 10-12 hours with fingers on strings silence is priceless

 

[la szum]

One of the reasons i pretty much dont listen to music.
I think the last newer stuff i listened to and enjoyed Karnivool, Gojira, Polyphia.

But i likely wont listen to it again.
When i spent an average if 10-12 hours with fingers on strings silence is priceless

Haha! I get that. I used to refuse to allow anyone to play the stereo/radio in my car on trips
home after a gig. Eventually no one would want to ride with me, and I considered my efforts
a resounding success!

 

[Bruce]

They’re a decently popular band, someone you’d see on a Periphery tour. I’d imagine you’re at least aware of Periphery, it’s hard not to be as they’re kinda like the NDSP of bands, but I actually enjoy some of their output.

I have the Jake Bowen Ibanez.
1. I think that’s his name
2. I think he’s in that band
3. All I know about him is he’s petruccis cousin or nephew or something like that.

 

[DrewJD82]

I have the Jake Bowen Ibanez.
1. I think that’s his name
2. I think he’s in that band
3. All I know about him is he’s petruccis cousin or nephew or something like that.

The black and gold one??

 

[Bruce]

The black and gold one??

Yea the MIJ one. 6 string.

 

[DrewJD82]

Yea the MIJ one. 6 string.

If you ever think about moving that thing lemme know! That’s the only Ibanez, aside from the black PIA, they’ve released in the last 20 years I have an interest in.

 

[laxu]

I used to lurk in a bunch of P&W fb groups, it was kinda wild to be a fly on the wall and see what they were into.

This seems to be a very uniquely American phenomenon that simply doesn't exist elsewhere.

I don't think any of the gear is particularly designed to cater to this group but they are probably a significant segment of the purchasers.

 

[Orvillain]

Completely focusing on the wrong part.

You understand that I was focusing on exactly the right part all along, right?

You said this:

I’m guessing his point is most MI companies make most of their sales with amateurs and semi pros.

I said that given X, I think the distinction is becoming more and more meaningless.

I don't really understand why you want to turn that into a rant about free gear.

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

You understand that I was focusing on exactly the right part all along, right?

You said this:


I said that given X, I think the distinction is becoming more and more meaningless.

I don't really understand why you want to turn that into a rant about free gear.

The rant is not about free gear the rant is that the guys that slug it out 20+ nights a month with gigs to feed themself (literally the definition of Pro) are likely not the target audience.

Youre the one that made a comment about target audiences, (which im certain know enough about) into some badge of honor discussion.

The free gear blip was thrown in for good measure.

 

[Achilles]

I used to lurk in a bunch of P&W fb groups, it was kinda wild to be a fly on the wall and see what they were into.

What's the groupie scene like?

 

[Orvillain]

The rant is not about free gear the rant is that the guys that slug it out 20+ nights a month with gigs to feed themself (literally the definition of Pro) are likely not the target audience.

Youre the one that made a comment about target audiences, (which im certain know enough about) into some badge of honor discussion.

The free gear blip was thrown in for good measure.

Where did I ever talk about badge of honour? My comment was chiefly about the distinction you made between two or more demographics. I made no value judgement whatsoever.

I even agree with you that MI companies make most of their money off hobbyists, amateurs, semi-professionals, and then a bit off of the professionals.