Hotone Ampero II

[JCW308]

I’m in

The fender tone master unit has a lot of wasted real estate even though the touchscreen is cool and the pictures are nice. It’s still has a lot of space that’s just wasted. Maybe this will change. Maybe not. They seem to be pretty high on there cute little pictures.

This, exactly. I think Ampero has it right (above TMP right now at least).

 

[paisleywookiee]

Two and a half men is tv for Luddites and it still made a stupid amount of money

Sure, but it had a terrible UI.

 

[ian_dissonance]

Two and a half men is tv for Luddites and it still made a stupid amount of money

Why aim for the bottom?

 

[JCW308]

The units you compare it to come at very different pricepoints though!
I had an ampero mini around for a while…idnk if that’s the same modeling/efx code as current gen… but I was impressed by what it does for what you pay for it.
So in my mind they offer legit options you can be a rockgod with on a budget

Yes, I agree. I was quoting someone else who said the Ampero Stage was as good as Fractal and QC. it's not quite at that level, but it is good!

 

[Sedaxel]

Yes, I agree. I was quoting someone else who said the Ampero Stage was as good as Fractal and QC. it's not quite at that level, but it is good!

Is there much differencie between first and second gen models? Maybe the second gen ones are almost on par to the big boys?

 

[Elric]

The biggest problem with Hotone is they keep making new units, when they could just add more new features to the current ones first. We see an update here and there with a little new stuff, but you see more new products than you do updates.

I think that is key with these 'cheap' brands. They are differentiating by price, so they are all about moving new units not building a technology platform, ala Line 6, Fractal, Neural, etc. It does not really pay to invest a lot of R&D after the sale, they are just reacting to the market; they are better off building a shiny new thing to buy.

 

[JCW308]

The units you compare it to come at very different pricepoints though!
I had an ampero mini around for a while…idnk if that’s the same modeling/efx code as current gen… but I was impressed by what it does for what you pay for it.
So in my mind they offer legit options you can be a rockgod with on a budget

I'm not arguing that point at all. New new Hotone stuff is amazing. For the money.....

I'm just saying that the Hotone units are a little noisier than the big guys in all of our tests (where others with the same guitars, cables and power were silent).

 

[Jkist7]

I'm not arguing that point at all. New new Hotone stuff is amazing. For the money.....

I'm just saying that the Hotone units are a little noisier than the big guys in all of our tests (where others with the same guitars, cables and power were silent).

I've never experienced noise issues with the Stomp II, it runs dead silent, but you're not the first to mention noise issues with the Stage. Hopefully if there is something up with the Stage, they can fix it via firmware update or something.

 

[JCW308]

I've never experienced noise issues with the Stomp II, it runs dead silent, but you're not the first to mention noise issues with the Stage. Hopefully if there is something up with the Stage, they can fix it via firmware update or something.

Hoping they addressed it with the new Hotone Ampero II (with the built-in expression pedal).

 

[GTR37]

just watching Leo's latest vid on the comparison between Kemper ,NDSP , ToneX and there new Ampero Catch ( profiles)

is surprising that Ampero is right up there with ToneX

if the original amp settings are used Kemper is in 4th and Nano Cortex and Ampero are pretty close in second with ToneX a very slight lead

if you start changing setting , Nano cortex is noticeably worse , ToneX and ampere Tie this time and the Kemper using the liquid profile and actual SLO tone stack is the closest to the real amp behaviours

I honestly did not expect , the Ampero capture to be giving ToneX a run that is interesting

 

[paisleywookiee]

just watching Leo's latest vid on the comparison between Kemper ,NDSP , ToneX and there new Ampero Catch ( profiles)

is surprising that Ampero is right up there with ToneX

if the original amp settings are used Kemper is in 4th and Nano Cortex and Ampero are pretty close in second with ToneX a very slight lead

if you start changing setting , Nano cortex is noticeably worse , ToneX and ampere Tie this time and the Kemper using the liquid profile and actual SLO tone stack is the closest to the real amp behaviours

I honestly did not expect , the Ampero capture to be giving ToneX a run that is interesting

Wait, what the fuck is Hotone Catch? Is it more Kempery or ToneX-ey?

 

[GTR37]

Wait, what the fuck is Hotone Catch? Is it more Kempery or ToneX-ey?

seems to be more ToneX based , its still in Beta I believe , but interesting nonetheless , that they are getting into that market and fairly successfully out of the gate, if you believe the tests have merit

 

[paisleywookiee]

seems to be more ToneX based , its still in Beta I believe , but interesting nonetheless , that they are getting into that market and fairly successfully out of the gate, if you believe the tests have merit

It's not running on-device then, it's an app?

 

[GTR37]

It's not running on-device then, it's an app?

it appears to be on the unit , out for the new board when it releases in November and in beta for the stage , and probably the stomp , although later has no mic to create them

 

[JCW308]

It's not running on-device then, it's an app?

It's on the newer Ampero units (beta right now).

 

[Sedaxel]

It's promising. It seems like a new hard contender.

That said, We're not talking about those 200€ Amperos anymore. Now their price is almost on line (or even without the "almost") with some other profiling units.

The revolution will be complete when all units, even the cheapest, had good capturing features.

 

[GTR37]

It's promising. It seems like a new hard contender.

That said, We're not talking about those 200€ Amperos anymore. Now their price is almost on line (or even without the "almost") with some other profiling units.

The revolution will be complete when all units, even the cheapest, had good capturing features.

I predict the Hotone Catcher Box more like a Nano cortex at Namm in January

 

[Jkist7]

From what I understand, only the Ampero II and Stage can create captures. The Stomp II can likely load them, but won't be able to create captures, due to lack of I/O required. That's what I heard anyways, would be super cool if somehow the Stomp received the ability to create them too. Would definitely make it one of the most powerful modelers of that form factor, maybe even the most powerful.

EDIT: Apparently Hotone emailed a member of the ampero facebook group and confirmed that tone capture will be available to the stomp but there's no release date yet.

 

[Sedaxel]

From what I understand, only the Ampero II and Stage can create captures. The Stomp II can likely load them, but won't be able to create captures, due to lack of I/O required. That's what I heard anyways, would be super cool if somehow the Stomp received the ability to create them too. Would definitely make it one of the most powerful modelers of that form factor, maybe even the most powerful.

EDIT: Apparently Hotone emailed a member of the ampero facebook group and confirmed that tone capture will be available to the stomp but there's no release date yet.

Yeah, quite sure.

 

[ericbr1]

I've never experienced noise issues with the Stomp II, it runs dead silent, but you're not the first to mention noise issues with the Stage. Hopefully if there is something up with the Stage, they can fix it via firmware update or something.

I have no noise at all with the II Stage. Everything works as it should and is very very quiet. (with mine)