Hotone Ampero II

[Sedaxel]

I feel like Hotone wouldn't even need to do that much for me to buy it. What I'd like to see:

And... 800€.

Ampero is a good unit, yes. But it's not going to be cheap anymore when they launch the new gen with that list of improvements.

Reaching those prices, I think it's going to be less of a bargain. Even currently isn't exactly a bargain (generic effects, hit and miss models, CPU hungry, not very good latency numbers...).

I mean, it's good... But nothing too especial, IMO.

 

[laxu]

And... 800€.

Ampero is a good unit, yes. But it's not going to be cheap anymore when they launch the new gen with that list of improvements.

Reaching those prices, I think it's going to be less of a bargain. Even currently isn't exactly a bargain (generic effects, hit and miss models, CPU hungry, not very good latency numbers...).

I mean, it's good... But nothing too especial, IMO.

If they were to do that, I'd say that would be about right. The current pricing vs quality is also fine IMO.

I find it actually has good latency, I have had no issues using it as an audio interface or standalone.

Leo Gibson measured its latency as about 3ms, and 6ms if using the loop. That's similar latency to the QC.

 

[Sedaxel]

If they were to do that, I'd say that would be about right. The current pricing vs quality is also fine IMO.

I find it actually has good latency, I have had no issues using it as an audio interface or standalone.

Leo Gibson measured its latency as about 3ms, and 6ms if using the loop. That's similar latency to the QC.

With amp+cab it has almost 8ms latency.

The rest is often around 5ms.

Not horrible but still, not very impressive.

The quality of the unit is there... But there are also several aspects that aren't especially good.

The UI is really good. The rest is a mix between good and normal. If the price keeps on rising... Meh.

 

[GTR37]

With amp+cab it has almost 8ms latency.

The rest is often around 5ms.

Not horrible but still, not very impressive.

The quality of the unit is there... But there are also several aspects that aren't especially good.

The UI is really good. The rest is a mix between good and normal. If the price keeps on rising... Meh.

Did you try the latest updates
They apparently dropped the on board cab latency by a substantial amount
The old latency was 8ms w amp cab delay verb I believe

 

[Jkist7]

And... 800€.

Ampero is a good unit, yes. But it's not going to be cheap anymore when they launch the new gen with that list of improvements.

Reaching those prices, I think it's going to be less of a bargain. Even currently isn't exactly a bargain (generic effects, hit and miss models, CPU hungry, not very good latency numbers...).

I mean, it's good... But nothing too especial, IMO.

If you are ever paying full price for anything Hotone, you're doing it wrong. I got my Stomp 2 for $350 brand new. At that price it's a bargain. At regular price it's a solid choice.

 

[SpaceForceCMDR]

If you are ever paying full price for anything Hotone, you're doing it wrong. I got my Stomp 2 for $350 brand new. At that price it's a bargain. At regular price it's a solid choice.

Stomp 2 is available on ebay right now for $310 usd. These "sale" prices have been lower every year.

 

[Sedaxel]

The latency info of 8 ms is from Leo´s Stage review 11 months ago, so I think it´s after the update.

Besides, I´m plenty aware of Aliexpress/Ebay prices. I could have bought a Stomp for 260€ (and I didn´t, because I´m sure I would have ended up searching for something better). If We are going to compare, We should do it with official prices from stable shops. Tomorrow, Aliexpress can perfectly stop selling Hotone (as it happened with other stuff). Not to mention that, sometimes, customs grab your package and you have a nice surprise (yeah, not very common, but it happened to me a couple times).

Again, I think it´s a good unit, don´t get me wrong. UI is awesome and they´ve entered the capturing game (which still needs to be improved, since it´s CPU hungry). Still, there are several meh aspects in it. It´s my opinion.

 

[laxu]

With amp+cab it has almost 8ms latency.

The rest is often around 5ms.

Not horrible but still, not very impressive.

The quality of the unit is there... But there are also several aspects that aren't especially good.

The UI is really good. The rest is a mix between good and normal. If the price keeps on rising... Meh.

This is from when the Ampero 2 released, so with fw updates the Stage and Stomp now perform the same.

Seems I mispoke and the QC is a little bit better if you have drive+amp+cab+dly+reverb in the chain, but hey...at 3x the price it should be.

IMO the Hotone is the closest to the "Dual Cortex" concept that was flying around - a cheaper, yet still capable unit with similar behavior to QC.

For any future generation products that are likely expensive, obviously you need to also raise what the quality should be like. But I think the current Ampero 2 range punches well above its price point and can only get better.

 

[Sedaxel]

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This is from when the Ampero 2 released, so with fw updates the Stage and Stomp now perform the same.

Seems I mispoke and the QC is a little bit better if you have drive+amp+cab+dly+reverb in the chain, but hey...at 3x the price it should be.

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IMO the Hotone is the closest to the "Dual Cortex" concept that was flying around - a cheaper, yet still capable unit with similar behavior to QC.

For any future generation products that are likely expensive, obviously you need to also raise what the quality should be like. But I think the current Ampero 2 range punches well above its price point and can only get better.

I stand corrected regarding latency.

 

[BuleriaChk]

I just snagged a new Ampero 2 Stage for $400. From a dealer on Reverb, but it came sealed and the dealer had a 5 star rep.
(The deal isn't there any more, though). Everything works as advertised...

 

[JCW308]

I just snagged a new Ampero 2 Stage for $400. From a dealer on Reverb, but it came sealed and the dealer had a 5 star rep.
(The deal isn't there any more, though). Everything works as advertised...

Point Guitars?

 

[laxu]

This is pretty interesting, when in patch mode, the manual says we can assign a second function to each footswitch, like BOSS CURNUM:

Use PATCH FS FUNC to select additional functions for pressing footswitch

1-4 in the Patch Mode.

•

Patch: Press down the footswitch 1-4 to select between patch 1-4 in the

current bank. Press the footswitch corresponding to the current patch

again with no function.

•

Patch/FX Slot 1: Press the footswitch corresponding to the current patch

to switch the module on/off for this patch Effects Slot 1

•

Patch/Scene 2: Press the footswitch corresponding to the current patch to

switch to Scene 2 of this patch

•

Patch/Bypass: Press the footswitch corresponding to the current patch to

bypass the unit.

Forgot to reply to this. This feature is kinda poorly explained, but this is how it works:
It is not a function for each footswitch, it's an additional function for the currently selected patch's footswitch.

So as an example if I'm on the patch activated by the center footswitch on my A2 Stomp, then pressing that again will toggle a secondary feature if the PATCH FS FUNC setting is on any other setting than "Patch".

It's basically a quick way to e.g toggle between two scenes if you feel like you'd rather switch patches more often rather than whatever is configured in Stomp mode.

It's probably the most useful on the A2 Stage as you could have several presets under those footswitches, then stomp it again to activate another sound inside that preset without going into stomp mode with the leftmost switch

 

[JCW308]

Forgot to reply to this. This feature is kinda poorly explained, but this is how it works:
It is not a function for each footswitch, it's an additional function for the currently selected patch's footswitch.

So as an example if I'm on the patch activated by the center footswitch on my A2 Stomp, then pressing that again will toggle a secondary feature if the PATCH FS FUNC setting is on any other setting than "Patch".

It's basically a quick way to e.g toggle between two scenes if you feel like you'd rather switch patches more often rather than whatever is configured in Stomp mode.

It's probably the most useful on the A2 Stage as you could have several presets under those footswitches, then stomp it again to activate another sound inside that preset without going into stomp mode with the leftmost switch

Right....CUR NUM as I said.

 

[laxu]

Right....CUR NUM as I said.

Which means nothing to people who haven't used Boss stuff. Sorry if I posted redundant stuff.

 

[JCW308]

Which means nothing to people who haven't used Boss stuff. Sorry if I posted redundant stuff.

...."when in patch mode, the manual says we can assign a second function to each footswitch"