Helix Talk

[Orvillain]

I love carrying around a bunch of dongles in case I need to plug into a lamppost and change the colour of the fire inside our souls.

 

[SillyOctpuss]

I love carrying around a bunch of dongles in case I need to plug into a lamppost and change the colour of the fire inside our souls.

Ooh ooh I bagsy purple.

'licks purple guitar to seal my claim'

 

[Orvillain]

Anyone have an opinions on how fast the HX Stomp switches presets???

 

[Alex Kenivel]

Anyone have an opinions on how fast the HX Stomp switches presets???

Faster preset switching than the bigger units. I've often switched presets mid-song with my stomp before a solo but with plenty of time before the One

 

[James Freeman]

Helix Floor about 180ms (measured).



Stomp could be faster, just one DSP.

EDIT:
Oh, you're asking for an opinion, well, on the Helix Floor I feel it could be a little faster, below 100ms would be great.
My presets are super simple with not much beyond core tone and some wet effects so snapshots are plenty enough to do it all in one preset for me.

 

[SillyOctpuss]

Helix Floor about 180ms (measured).



Stomp could be faster, just one DSP.

EDIT:
Oh, you're asking for an opinion, well, on the Helix Floor I feel it could be a little faster, below 100ms would be great.
My presets are super simple with not much beyond core tone and some wet effects so snapshots are plenty enough to do it all in one preset for me.

How'd you measure this? I'll measure my stomp later if I know how.

 

[James Freeman]

In Cakewalk I select Milliseconds as the marker time format, then I record a few patch changes, zoom in, place the cursor at the ends of the silent part, note the milliseconds and calculate the delta manually.

 

[SillyOctpuss]

In Cakewalk I select Milliseconds as the marker time format, then I record a few patch changes, zoom in, place the cursor at the ends of the silent part, note the milliseconds and calculate the delta manually.

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Cool I'll do that with the stomp tonight and report back.

 

[SillyOctpuss]

I'm getting about 123 ms with my stomp

 

[James Freeman]

Interesting, I don't hear a change in sound.
Maybe try switching between presets with different amps and different IR/Cabs?
Maybe heavier presets take longer time to switch?

 

[SillyOctpuss]

No problem. The two presets I was changing between are basically the same core sounds but the delays/mods are different. Those blocks weren't engaged though just amp, cab and reverb.

I'll record something else later and see if it changes.

 

[SillyOctpuss]

Ok I recorded and measured a few different examples tonight.

First is a BE100 patch into a jcm800, there's dynamic ambience reverb on both. I was measuring 91ms from the BE to jcm and 109ms going back again.



The second run through was the same patches with a 808 tube screamer added to the BE and a Plumes added to the 800. This time I got 95ms from jcm to BE and 105 going back again. The patches were the other way round in this example.



Finally I rerecorded the princeton patches from last night again but changed the klon on the second patch to a kot and got the same result of approx 126ms



Could the dsp used in the patch affect the patch change time that much?

 

[the-trooper]

Did you feel a great disturbance in the force?

 

[Lysander]

Did you feel a great disturbance in the force?

 

[Digital Igloo]

Did you feel a great disturbance in the force?

They're gonna have to make like 70, 80 captures to do that model justice though.

 

[Lysander]

They're gonna have to make like 70, 80 captures to do that model justice though.

For real. It sounds awesome in that video, too.

 

[Foxmeister]

Did you feel a great disturbance in the force?

That's reserved for when Line 6 update/remodel some of the Marshall amps - @James Freeman will feel this as a disturbance in the force long before the new amps are released!

 

[Lysander]

That's reserved for when Line 6 update/remodel some of the Marshall amps - @James Freeman will feel this as a disturbance in the force long before the new amps are released!

I can picture him suddenly waking up, drenched in sweat. "Something's wrong."

 

[James Freeman]

Captures are great when done properly but they will never beat full amp modeling done properly.

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

 

[EOengineer]

Captures are great when done properly but they will never beat full amp modeling done properly.

How so?