Helix 3.2 when?

[paisleywookiee]

I somewhat agree
I mean the new cabs are great but sort of solves a problem I did not have with the York audio IRs or OH
Now the fact that you can use dual IR is nice and the CPU reduction is very helpful but overall this is like
Metallurgy on the Hardware

There's a weird thing with ALL of the modeler platforms, in that I get ear fatigue, and stuff that sounded great one day, no longer does. It's a weird/stupid psychological thing.

But I agree; I'm just as likely to keep using the five York Audio IR's, because they just sound great.

 

[paisleywookiee]

imo

A snapshot is either great or it isn’t —depending on a person’s specifics. There’s not really an inbetween, and there can be a whole lot of almost but not quite when using 3rd party ones.

Yeah, IMO with little exception ToneX isn't going to be truly great for me until I can get a reamp box and do them myself.

 

[Fireproof]

There's a weird thing with ALL of the modeler platforms, in that I get ear fatigue, and stuff that sounded great one day, no longer does. It's a weird/stupid psychological thing.

But I agree; I'm just as likely to keep using the five York Audio IR's, because they just sound great.

That was the great thing about York Audio IRs. They were consistently good - more so than others that I tried. And then, knowing that, when my ears would start second guessing things because of fatigue or whatever, I was less tempted to change things, because I was confident in the YA IR and more likely to brain my ears/head. If that makes any sense…

 

[Mongillo19]

That was the great thing about York Audio IRs. They were consistently good - more so than others that I tried. And then, knowing that, when my ears would start second guessing things because of fatigue or whatever, I was less tempted to change things, because I was confident in the YA IR and more likely to brain my ears/head. If that makes any sense…

York Audio Mix 1 of anything is my plug and play. Hard to go wrong

 

[Fireproof]

York Audio Mix 1 of anything is my plug and play. Hard to go wrong

Agreed. And it’s nice to be able to trust someone else’s ears so I don’t get wrapped up in analysis paralysis and can move on to more important things.

 

[GTR37]

Speaking of “getting plugins on the hardware…”

How fast did they figure that out? And Neural going on 2 years…?

I believe they already knew how to do it out of the gate and planned for this

When you have a plan and not just fly by the seat of your Ai’s pants
Things can happen

 

[GTR37]

That was the great thing about York Audio IRs. They were consistently good - more so than others that I tried. And then, knowing that, when my ears would start second guessing things because of fatigue or whatever, I was less tempted to change things, because I was confident in the YA IR and more likely to brain my ears/head. If that makes any sense…

Yep I used to have all these IR
ml oh red wirez

When I switched to York I stopped chasing my tail the 10 or 15 producer mixes I can always find something there I don’t have to venture deep in into the files

I like that and I just pair them up now
Recto gets the OS v2
HBE. The Freidman pack
Fender the deluxe pack and so on

 

[Badonkey Kong]

Man. The Vitriol Lead is awesome. But Vitriol Crunch is oddly flubby when you turn up the preamp gain. I thought the crunch channel was actually supposed to be tighter?

 

[SwirlyMaple]

Which is weird because they are in fact just IRs like any other IR.

Could be their room they capture in, or the preamp chain for the capturing mics. Every IR vendor seems to have slightly different character to their captures that is probably colored by their room, capture equipment, etc.

 

[SwirlyMaple]

For those having an issue with the new driver, you don’t need to uninstall anything on Windows. It’s very fast to fix.

• Just go into Device Manager
• Open the dropdown under "Sound, video and game controllers"
• Find Line 6 Helix in the list, and right-click it, and select "Properties"
• Click the Driver tab, and then click the button that says "Roll Back Driver." It'll only take a second once you click it.

This will return the Helix driver to the one used previously, without affecting any of the other 3.50 update stuff. Should fix your issues until they put out a hotfix. (Note: you need your Helix powered on and connected for it to show up in this list)

 

[paisleywookiee]

York Audio Mix 1 of anything is my plug and play. Hard to go wrong

I agree. Whatever the heck Mix 1,2, and 3 are sound great. I need more Yorks.

EDIT

That makes sense; mixes 1, 2, and 3 are just different 57+121 variations.

 

[Digital Igloo]

Could be their room they capture in, or the preamp chain for the capturing mics. Every IR vendor seems to have slightly different character to their captures that is probably colored by their room, capture equipment, etc.

The IRs aren’t long enough for the room to have an impact and we did listening tests between 4–5 high end mic pres and I believe multiple A/D converters before overwhelmingly picking the magic ones. Not saying there isn’t “a sound” there, but they’re just IRs, nothing more.

 

[SwirlyMaple]

The IRs aren’t long enough for the room to have an impact and we did listening tests between 4–5 high end mic pres and I believe multiple A/D converters before overwhelmingly picking the magic ones. Not saying there isn’t “a sound” there, but they’re just IRs, nothing more.

I like the sound of them, whatever the secret sauce is. It’s impossible to please everyone all at once, but the tonal crafting versatility offered by the new cab block is a huge leap for me. I like to sculpt a specific stereo image and tonal balance, and the new block makes that so much easier.

Combined with the Dynamic Ambience reverb, I’m able to make some really convincing distant-mic’d sounds that I couldn’t get before. A number of my favorite guitar albums were recorded with off-axis room mics in the mix, and I’m already getting really close to those sounds now. It’s great!

(FWIW, it’s interesting hearing the same cabs through the new IRs. I can tell they are the same cabs, but it’s like hearing an old worn out cassette vs. a fresh re-master from the original material.)

 

[James Freeman]

A quick reminder that no two identical cabs, speakers and mics in the world will sound identical.
Heck, when you mic the same speaker in eight directions it WILL sound like eight slightly different speakers.
Double heck, same model Celestion speakers sound different every production batch and almost every year.
There is sooooooo much variables to expect any similarity.

 

[the swede]

A quick reminder that no two identical cabs, speakers and mics in the world will sound identical.
Heck, when you mic the same speaker in eight directions it WILL sound like eight slightly different speakers.
Double heck, same model Celestion speakers sound different every production batch and almost every year.
There is sooooooo much variables to expect any similarity.

Exactly.
But it didn’t take long before JMP and Justin Y hammered down their accuracy hammer… I don’t care. They have valid opinions but don’t explain why they have them (because their setup and tech sounds the way it does because? Exactly…)

 

[MirrorProfiles]

Man. The Vitriol Lead is awesome. But Vitriol Crunch is oddly flubby when you turn up the preamp gain. I thought the crunch channel was actually supposed to be tighter?

Crunch channel definitely isn’t tighter, it’s looser and more organic sounding. Lead channel is more like a 5150 red channel (i.e it is the red channel): same kind of pointy attack, a little less bass, more aggressive.

Something does seem a bit weird about the Vitriol Crunch channel to me that doesn’t seem right, particularly when the preamp gain is high. I noticed it in Metallurgy too and can’t reproduce that sound on the real amp no matter how hard I slam the real amps input.

 

[James Freeman]

I think there is a bug in the Vitriol Crunch channel.
Sounds like there is a huge DC offset when the input is slammed hard, or like a choked gated fuzz, I can hear the noise floor pumping-in when I stop playing.

 

[MirrorProfiles]

glad i’m not alone. I made a clip of it when Metallurgy was released and it kind of put me off buying it:

 

[James Freeman]

Machinated is that you?

 

[Stone]

Hmm No mention at all of 3.5 Update on any other forum sites, only here and TGP
in fact all other 3 sites I frequent dont ever or rarely mention modelling